Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Coach: Ward Can't Make 168, Belongs at 175

[The Big Dunn]

If you are going to make false statements like that, then you should be prepared to find posts of mine that support what you are saying.

But guess what? They dont exist. From day one I have said GGG puts ward on the floor. And I challenge you to find a post where I say otherwise.

There is enough that we can legitimately disagree on, that you dont have to go making **** up.......


maybe you should go back to claiming GGG didnt win his belt....lol

I didn't comment about something you posted, I was talking about your confidence. You didn't really believe GGG was going to beat Ward.

If you follow boxing at all, and I think you do, you are smart enough to know the size, length and speed advantages Ward has would be very difficult to overcome.

[OnePunch]

I didn't comment about something you posted, I was talking about your confidence. You didn't really believe GGG was going to beat Ward.

If you follow boxing at all, and I think you do, you are smart enough to know the size, length and speed advantages Ward has would be very difficult to overcome.

I just disagree. Wards constant clinching, leaning over, hugging, all that garbage plays right into GGGs best weapons, which IMO are his uppercut and left hook to the body.

I just see a different outcome than you. Sure, Ward has the potential to try and stink out the place, but I think its an easier fight for GGG than you make it out to be.

We simply disagree.

[daggum]

Yeah, right. You got what you wanted-GGG isn't going to get made to look like your previous hero on May 2nd. Ward is taking on the bigger more difficult fight and most of you are afraid he wins like he did in the Super 6.

Ward signed the HBO deal, so all the tune up talk is in the past. He agreed to fight Kov. Just like May 2nd once the fight got signed, the pre fight nervousness and excuses came pouring out.

I look forward to the fight-unless of course it goes to a purse bid and Kov pulls out.

i wasn't afraid ward would win the super six. i didn't care who won. what i did see was that ward had everything in his advantage during that tournament or are we all supposed to be blind and ignorant like you and pretend that it wasn't setup in his favor? he won a tournament in which every fight was in his home country, meanwhile froch had to fight in 4 different countries, he won a tournament in which he was allowed to break the rules constantly with no penalties from the refs. you see this kind of stuff matters to people who are actually fans of the sport, people that don't say boxers are people's heroes.

floyd was forced to fight pac by showtime and cbs. if ward is forced to fight kov then i'm fine with that. some guys need a big push to get over their fear otherwise they will just fight bums forever which is what ward had been doing for 4 years. that big push comes from fans saying hey wait this guy has been ducking and fighting bums for 4 years. lets go fight someone good now. you think ward would want to fight tough fighters if people like you kept saying he's the best, he's p4p #1 and put no pressure on him? my guess is no and that's backed up with his recent history and opponent selection. people kept telling him he was the sh-it and he tried to milk that but reality i hope has set in and he can't live off winning the super 6 forever.

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Interestingly Ward himself has said he struggles with 168 anymore, tried to make 170 in camp as a test, cuts to 175, weighed 180+ vs Smith.

But his boxing scene fan base (aka people who don't even like Ward but just want GGG to lose because he doesn't look like them) still won't believe it.

They won't believe Ward himself. Soon they will accuse Ward of being in on the GGG conspiracy.

[Scipio2009]

Ward recently admitted this himself. Not sure why he needs his LHW tune-ups to be against SMW's though?



http://www.fighthype.com/news/article22305.html

There's a big difference between cutting 5lbs to get to weight and cutting 25lbs to get to weight.

People keep ignoring the fact, but Andre Ward was 173.5lbs with three weeks to go to the Paul Smith fight. To simply try and act as if Andre Ward was just some massive dude, with the reality being what it is, makes you look ******.

[OnePunch]

Interestingly Ward himself has said he struggles with 168 anymore, tried to make 170 in camp as a test, cuts to 175, weighed 180+ vs Smith.

But his boxing scene fan base (aka people who don't even like Ward but just want GGG to lose because he doesn't look like them) still won't believe it.

They won't believe Ward himself. Soon they will accuse Ward of being in on the GGG conspiracy.

haha that wouldnt surprise me

[The Big Dunn]

I just disagree. Wards constant clinching, leaning over, hugging, all that garbage plays right into GGGs best weapons, which IMO are his uppercut and left hook to the body.

I just see a different outcome than you. Sure, Ward has the potential to try and stink out the place, but I think its an easier fight for GGG than you make it out to be.

We simply disagree.

Not just me, HBO, Team GGG and most GGG fans here on NSB. The offer at 164 almost confirms they thought they needed an edge.

Well, on to ward v Kov.

[skinnystev]

yeah slappin' soggy can't make 168 and is gonna fight at 175 yet continues to call out golovkin who fights at 160 slappin soggy has not fought in 6 months has no fight scheduled he out with another "injury" slappin soggy aint nothing but a bible ****ing malingerer

[OnePunch]

Not just me, HBO, Team GGG and most GGG fans here on NSB. The offer at 164 almost confirms they thought they needed an edge.

Well, on to ward v Kov.

No, thats just you projecting. There never was an offer. All there was was Loeffler talking off the cuff to Rafael. There was never an offer, because Ward didnt become available until AFTER ggg had signed for Lemieux. Quite peculiar timing on Wards part, no?

But lets assume for a second that there was an offer, so what? Why would they not try and negotiate for a better split, or other concessions? Why do you people think that if a fighter does not concede every detail immediately to your preferred fighter that somehow its a duck? Who exactly is Ward that every single detail should go his way immediately by default?

I guess Floyd demanding 152 for Canelo, in a division he had won titles in twice before, well that was just "good bidness", right?

lol

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Of Course Ward was always a LHW fighting at SMW

Ward did fight ams at 175, and the Olympics. And now is unable to make 168, everyone knows this.

He came out to fight at MW, was too drained, went to 168.

Ward was always a big SMW.

Him calling GGG out was never the bravest thing, it was strategic hate.

Ward only wanted Trip when he was sure he'd get turned down.