Biggest threat to GGG from 154 to 160?

[Weebler I]

Canelo goes 12, we can bet on it.

And a seperate bet, if GGG and Canelo negotiate a fight in between and I can see Canelo vs a real MW, not small Cotto, then I can make a better assessment of Canelo vs GGG. If I feel that Canelo can beat GGG i'll bet on it. But definitely right now I can bet you Canelo goes 12, you can bet on that.

We can, all my points man.

I want to see Canelo against a MW too, but not a stiff. Let's see him against Lemieux, Lee or one of the better guys in the division.

[SilverMiles]

Genaro Hernandez was 130 Lineal champion and only lost to two All Time Greats Mayweather and De La Hoya. "Usually" lost to the best? Geale lost to Mundine and Darren ****ing Barker...Geale is and was never a B+ fighter. You are tripping so hard.

Stop being such a hater. Genaro was lineal champion in an average division. He fought two very young fighters who were not in their prime yet and both blew him out the water. Also factor it that Genaro was much bigger than his fellow Jr LW being damn near 6 feet tall, an advantage Geale never had.

So what Geale dropped a decision to Geale a 10 years ago, that obviously wasn't the finished product and he did come back to and beat Mundine. I don't really understand why people **** in Mundine so much. He's a dual sport athlete. The but has obvious talent because he's one of the only people to have success in two different sports.

And the Barker lost is debatable. Close fight but I scored for Geale because of the knockdown.

Geale spent 2 years as the #1 MW and beat Strum in Germany (the same Strum that whipped Oscar, the same Oscar that whipped Hernandez) Stop pretending that means nothing because it obviously does. He did more with less and weirdos like you call him a bum.

Have some respect for the sport because no one but a hater would compare Geale to Pep who accomplished next to nothing in the sport.

[OnePunch]

We can, all my points man.

I want to see Canelo against a MW too, but not a stiff. Let's see him against Lemieux, Lee or one of the better guys in the division.

well it cant be Lemieux. Didnt you get the memo? Once someone loses to GGG, they immediately become a c-level scrub.

[-Kev-]

Stop being such a hater. Genaro was lineal champion in an average division. He fought two very young fighters who were not in their prime yet and both blew him out the water. Also factor it that Genaro was much bigger than his fellow Jr LW being damn near 6 feet tall, an advantage Geale never had.

So what Geale dropped a decision to Geale a 10 years ago, that obviously wasn't the finished product and he did come back to and beat Mundine. I don't really understand why people **** in Mundine so much. He's a dual sport athlete. The but has obvious talent because he's one of the only people to have success in two different sports.

And the Barker lost is debatable. Close fight but I scored for Geale because of the knockdown.

Geale spent 2 years as the #1 MW and beat Strum in Germany (the same Strum that whipped Oscar, the same Oscar that whipped Hernandez) Stop pretending that means nothing because it obviously does. He did more with less and weirdos like you call him a bum.

Have some respect for the sport because no one but a hater would compare Geale to Pep who accomplished next to nothing in the sport.

You have mentioned twice that I compared Geale to Tony Pep. Which I didn't. I won't elaborate because I think anyone with half a brain would understand the analogy, and not take it as a direct side by side comparison.

Genaro was lineal champ in an average division, then you go on to say Geale was #1 at MW for 2 years, a dead division, below average at the time.

Being tall is not being big, it's called being tall. Size and height are two different things.

Look I get it, you are a GGG fanboy and you will say anything to justify every win on his resume. The truth is if GGG retired today, his resume wouldn't even get him into the HOF in his house. He is 33, time is running out and Canelo on his resume is like an ATG win compared to everyone else there. It's as if he'd be beating Sugar Ray Robinson, that's how poor his resume is. You can hype it up as much as possible, his Geale win, you can talk about to your kids all you want and all of his other wins like Stevens, Rosado, Rubio, Lemiuex but none of these guys are world beaters and have never been, and never will be.

[-Kev-]

well it cant be Lemieux. Didnt you get the memo? Once someone loses to GGG, they immediately become a c-level scrub.

It can be anyone who is an actual MW. How bad the fighter is doesn't matter as long as he is top 10. Just no one like Tureano, Adama, or Monroe Jr.

And i'm sory but Lemieux was never anything above C+ level, that's a 77. Him losing to Golovkin changed nothing. Literally people see Lemiuex the same way today as they did after he lost to Rubio and Alcine back to back. Nothing's changed, no matter how badly GGG fans tried to hype him up as a good fighter. Lemiuex is one of the best C level fighters at MW, i'll give you that if it helps you sleep better. He beat other C level fighters like N'Dam and Guerrero. If you are giving these guys scores they are in the high 70s. C level is linked to negative ratings but they are actually not terrible, it's just that they are not that good. They could beat me up, that's about it. They can't beat the top guys. They can't beat the B guys, or the A guys. Look Lemiux can't even beat some C fighters like Rubio and Alcine.

[SilverMiles]

You have mentioned twice that I compared Geale to Tony Pep. Which I didn't. I won't elaborate because I think anyone with half a brain would understand the analogy, and not take it as a direct side by side comparison.

Genaro was lineal champ in an average division, then you go on to say Geale was #1 at MW for 2 years, a dead division, below average at the time.

Being tall is not being big, it's called being tall. Size and height are two different things.

Look I get it, you are a GGG fanboy and you will say anything to justify every win on his resume. The truth is if GGG retired today, his resume wouldn't even get him into the HOF in his house. He is 33, time is running out and Canelo on his resume is like an ATG win compared to everyone else there. It's as if he'd be beating Sugar Ray Robinson, that's how poor his resume is. You can hype it up as much as possible, his Geale win, you can talk about to your kids all you want and all of his other wins like Stevens, Rosado, Rubio, Lemiuex but none of these guys are world beaters and have never been, and never will be.

Age has zero to do with anything . Canelo got opportunities that GGG didn't earlier. And it doesn't hurt that he brings money while being very, very beatable. Comparing GGG to Canelo is disrespectful. Two different class of fighters compley. It's why Canelo struggles with fighters like Trout and GGG stops them.

And too call MW dead in 2011 to now is asinine and talk of a hater. Just because the fighters you like don't fight there doesn't make it weak. Martinez was the champion than and he's a much more talent fighter than Genaro. Martinez will be a first ballot HOF while Genaro probably won't ever see the hall.

Geale was just unfortunate his time came during the time two special fighters came along, Martinez and GGG. If they haven't he would most likely been Lineal Champion after beating Strum.

Genaro was good, B+ fighter. That's just the fact. The division was average and he was the best of average fighters. Once special fighters showed up Genaro was easily beaten and called it a career. He saw the writing on the wall and knew his time was up.

[-Kev-]

We can, all my points man.

I want to see Canelo against a MW too, but not a stiff. Let's see him against Lemieux, Lee or one of the better guys in the division.

After Lee and Jacobs there's really not much there, at least not yet. I am still waiting to see more of Saunders and Eubank Jr. The verdict is still out on them. If Saunders can beat Lee, i'd say he becomes a little more legit. Lee can't be removed as a threat despite a loss to Saunders because he at least upset Korobov. Although I won't take Lee too seriously vs GGG or Canelo because he did get KO'ed by Chavez Jr and Brian Vera. But with Lee I think that is when he is dangerous, when he gets counted out entirely and the opponent overlooks him, that's when he is at his best. Right now Lee is vulnerable, because he is full of confidence and lots of hardcore fans are showing him attention, and The Ring gave him a nice ranking, historically this is when he messes up. He can't let that get to his head. If he can beat Saunders he is going to have some nice options.

[HeroBando]

It can be anyone who is an actual MW. How bad the fighter is doesn't matter as long as he is top 10. Just no one like Tureano, Adama, or Monroe Jr.

And i'm sory but Lemieux was never anything above C+ level, that's a 77. Him losing to Golovkin changed nothing. Literally people see Lemiuex the same way today as they did after he lost to Rubio and Alcine back to back. Nothing's changed, no matter how badly GGG fans tried to hype him up as a good fighter. Lemiuex is one of the best C level fighters at MW, i'll give you that if it helps you sleep better. He beat other C level fighters like N'Dam and Guerrero. If you are giving these guys scores they are in the high 70s. C level is linked to negative ratings but they are actually not terrible, it's just that they are not that good. They could beat me up, that's about it. They can't beat the top guys. They can't beat the B guys, or the A guys. Look Lemiux can't even beat some C fighters like Rubio and Alcine.

Is that like Badou Jack can't beat Derek Edwards and Periban?

[b00g13man]

Not talking about ****s...

Canelo has more reach:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/348759
http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

Hmmmm....you choose now to believe numbers seen online? Pretty convenient.

[STAX ON DECK]

We can, all my points man.

I want to see Canelo against a MW too, but not a stiff. Let's see him against Lemieux, Lee or one of the better guys in the division.

when will u turdboys learn that canelo is the real deal??? i mean i kno most of u dobut him mostly because floyd toyed with him,so giving him props means ur giving TBE props which is something u try so hard to avoid,but damn

canelo is a middleweight and he beats ggg,quillin,jacobs,lameiuxe,and all those other random ass boxrec opponents ggg has foguht