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  • #31
    Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
    I think its either 60-40 or 55-45 to the super champion (GGG) if there is a purse bid.
    i think it's 75-25. the only time i can recall it happening off the top of my head was for klitschko-povetkin

    http://www.*********.com/Boxing/wba-...itschko-186099

    edit: the link is fight news

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    • #32
      How many fans does Jacobs have? What was his highest attendance?

      I dont see many people talking about Jacobs at all.

      Only time i hear people talking was after he got knocked out like a sack of potatoes by Pirog and in the last couple days.

      GGG on the other side is everywhere, doing Apple commercials and taking part in 50% of the threads on boxing forums.

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      • #33
        If Lemieux was on PPV then yes I guess it is PPV AV worthy. It probably would have to be anyway to pay the fighters.

        GGG is the A side, I think that's a no brainer.

        GGG $3 mill Jacobs $2mill... Seems fair to me. Fight at Sold out MSG...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          Golovkin vs Jacobs for the WBA/IBF/WBC(i think Canelo vacates the belt) 160 belts, in New York City, is a PPV fight (HBO likely slow walks it, but Showtime backs pretty obviously). If I had to guess the audience, I'd figure it to do 400k-500k PPV buys.

          In determining the split, since neither guy is really all that obvious a star, it's going to come down to simply sitting down and counting the revenues to be brought in [Golovkin likely brings the stronger live gate, fight is worth far more to Jacobs' broadcaster, Jacobs likely brings more NYC sponsor interest, Golovkin may possibly brings multinational sponsors, Golovkin brings international TV rights money, etc]

          On the face of it, an equitable split is likely 65/35 Golovkin; that number likely gets pushed down to 55/45 Golovkin, if the insistence on HBO getting the fight occurs (doubt that HBO is ready to commit more money than Showtime for the fight)

          $1m downside guarantee, with a 40/60 split of the upside on the fighter share of the fight proceeds, would be an offer that Jacobs couldn't walk from.
          400-500k? Is Jacobs really all that more popular then Lemieux? Nobody knows him honestly.

          GGG is probably one of the top 5-6 active most recognizable fighters in the world so yeah, he's pretty popular.
          GGG likely brings the better gate? Is that not a fact already seeing he sold out MSG and Saturdays fight had 8500 people?
          And they set a merchandise record during the GGG fight that weekend..

          GGG is clearly the A side and is gonna get the better split. Problem is Jacobs just made 1.5 for Quillen, he may want 3-4 for a GGG fight and that's not gonna happen.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
            What's the purse split if it goes to purse bid?
            per WBA rules, it would be 75-25 GGGs way......



            Disbursements of Bids Proceeds

            The boxers’ Purse shall be distributed as follows:

            a. 75% to the Champion and 25% to the Challenger.

            b. 75% to the Super Champion and 25% to the Challenger, even if it is the Champion.

            c. 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.

            d. 55% to the Champion in Recess and 45% to the Interim Champion, in the event of such a bout.
            Last edited by OnePunch; 12-07-2015, 06:19 PM.

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            • #36
              These are the last five pots for Golovkin's fights:

              Total purse for GGG-Lemieux - $3.5m (55/45)

              Total purse for GGG-Monroe Jr - $1.6m (90/10)

              Rumoured purse for GGG-Murray - $1m (50/50)

              Total purse for GGG-Rubio - $1.25m (65/35)

              Total purse for GGG-Geale - $1.35m (55/45)


              Five million seems like a bit of a stretch unless the PPV did well.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                LMAO. Jacobs went from "who's that" a week ago to bringing in 400k ppv buys in a stay busy fight for Golovkin.

                Nobody knows who Daniel Jacobs is. Seriously. I live in NYC and NOBODY knows who Danny Jacobs is. Golovkin's popularity in NYC is 5 times greater than Jacobs'.

                This is a Shobox or HBO After Dark fight with 1.5m/1.0m purse tops. People don't understand that those are actually very good purses, it's what Canelo/Lara made.
                Golovkin vs Jacobs is literally 'Godzilla' vs "The Miracle Man"; give a broadcaster who gives a **** the chance to market the fight and the spectacle of the fight sells itself.

                Daniel Jacobs is an English-speaking, American fighter, was one of New York's more decorated amateurs, had his pudding pro career almost ended by a near death experience, slowly clawed his way back to the top, knocked off America's top middleweight (and arguably the #3 middleweight on the planet) in stellar fashion, and would be heading into the biggest fight of his career against boxing's "boogeyman".

                Put 3 All Access/24-7 shows behind the fight, ESPN puts their interest behind the fight, and you sell Daniel Jacobs' story to anyone willing to listen; yes, the fight is likely to be bigger than you seem to imagine, especially after Jacobs was able to put Quillin out on his feet.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                  400-500k? Is Jacobs really all that more popular then Lemieux? Nobody knows him honestly.

                  GGG is probably one of the top 5-6 active most recognizable fighters in the world so yeah, he's pretty popular.
                  GGG likely brings the better gate? Is that not a fact already seeing he sold out MSG and Saturdays fight had 8500 people?
                  And they set a merchandise record during the GGG fight that weekend..

                  GGG is clearly the A side and is gonna get the better split. Problem is Jacobs just made 1.5 for Quillen, he may want 3-4 for a GGG fight and that's not gonna happen.
                  Jacobs' story brings more to the table than a no name (in the US, anyway), Quebicois given no chance to win.

                  Daniel Jacobs has had his last four fights broadcast on US TV (not sure of the ratings off the top of my head, but it's likely that a good amount of folks saw him fight), and, don't let this pass you, Jacobs is an American fighter.

                  Personally, I think folks are overselling Golovkin's supposed star power; he may have ended up selling out MSG, but he did have to move a ton of $20 tickets to get there, only shortly before the actual show. There's yet to be a single disclosed gate receipts total that anyone is willing to put their name behind, even with the "sell out".

                  Quillin-Jacobs may have only had 8500 people, but I doubt that anyone (outside of getting a comped ticket) got into that building for $20. I think you're over-estimating the downside guarantee Jacobs would need to take the fight.

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                  • #39
                    Jacobs would last less then six rounds man. Not even a fair fight.

                    Give us Lee-Jacobs or Canelo-Jacobs

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      No.

                      Whatever they can negotiate. Better fighters know that GGG needs to fight better people so they will ask for a little more.

                      The fight should be in NYC in the Garden. I would suggest 55/45 or 60/40 GGG.
                      Never going to happen. I'm to lazy to look it up, but I'm fairly certain a purse bid will work out to a 75/25 split in favor of GGG, per the WBA rules on championship purse bids. Why on earth would they agree to the type of split you're suggesting when they can let Haymon bid huge and take a lions share of the loot?

                      Opps seems I should of read more of the thread as I was beat to it lol.

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