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  • Eff Pandas
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    #51
    Originally posted by fredhopple
    getting hurt by inactivity
    I think Wilder is one of the most active top HW's if not the most active. His Jan. 16 fight vs TBA (lol) will be his 4th fight in 12 months. I'm not sure the last time a HW champion has even had 4 HW title fights in a 12 month period regardless if they were "the champ" or "a champ".

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #52
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      What would have paid for her business? The Wilder purse?

      I think I mainly feel like the hand with Fury has been misplayed tbh. I think you get the guy a 7 digit step aside & wait to fight the best guy for another better 7 digit payday. I'm guessing Wilder wasn't offering that level of money so it makes sense to look towards Fury.

      Problem is she isn't looking towards Fury she's looking towards a vacant title shot for maybe less money then Glazkov would've gotten for Wilder. Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe Glazkov just gots some nutty dream of winning "a" HW title (like Paulie's, weird to me, fascination with winning the EBU title) & being the "real" champion or getting paid the most he can get isn't important to him.
      Wilder fight would have come with a rematch clause and options.

      They chose a vacant title with no ties. He'll probably win it and hold it hostage, making more money in the long run than he would have to get KO'd by Wilder in a one shot deal.

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      • bitterdickbilly
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        #53
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        What would have paid for her business? The Wilder purse?

        I think I mainly feel like the hand with Fury has been misplayed tbh. I think you get the guy a 7 digit step aside & wait to fight the best guy for another better 7 digit payday. I'm guessing Wilder wasn't offering that level of money so it makes sense to look towards Fury.

        Problem is she isn't looking towards Fury she's looking towards a vacant title shot for maybe less money then Glazkov would've gotten for Wilder. Doesn't make sense to me. Maybe Glazkov just gots some nutty dream of winning "a" HW title (like Paulie's, weird to me, fascination with winning the EBU title) & being the "real" champion or getting paid the most he can get isn't important to him.
        Boxing promotion is indeed real business and can often run at odds with what spectators would like.

        You are crazy though with the multiple 7 figures claims.

        They are of course attempting to maximize profit potential.

        No way in hell Glazkof would make 7 figures for step aside money and he'd most likely not make that much in any purse either, including vs Fury.

        If he gets a belt and defends it a bit, he could net some decent cash. Maybe even setup a decent payday for a unification.

        That's the play here being worked on.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Wilder fight would have come with a rematch clause and options.

          They chose a vacant title with no ties. He'll probably win it and hold it hostage, making more money in the long run than he would have to get KO'd by Wilder in a one shot deal.
          Yea I can understand that. What I don't understand is why a 7 digit step aside fee & a bigger 7 digit payday vs the Fury vs Klitschko II winner wasn't more seriously considered or at least pretended to be considered to see what a step aside amount would look like. Of the 3 options that seems hands down the best one.

          I don't think this guy is good enough to hold the title hostage, I don't think he gets past Martin or Teper his two likely top options for opponents for this vacant title. Ffs he drew with Malik Scott (& personally I thought he straight up loss that fight). Maybe Duva & Glazkov got some rose colored glasses on with his talent & his best options idk.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wilde...ed-1-16--97734

            A representative for Povetkin came over to the WBC's ongoing convention in China and told the assembly today that Povetkin will not be ready for his mandatory title challenge in January, when it’s due.
            Fair enough.

            The fight didn't need to be in January.

            But whatever, they want to milk the title with bums.

            Can't run forever.

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              #56
              Originally posted by bitterdickbilly
              Fair enough.

              The fight didn't need to be in January.

              But whatever, they want to milk the title with bums.

              Can't run forever.
              Huh? How can you still be blaming Wilder?

              The mandatory was due in January and Povetkin said he wasn't ready. So Wilder fights in January as scheduled.

              Whilst we wait for Povetkin to stop stalling.

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                #57
                Originally posted by bitterdickbilly
                You are crazy though with the multiple 7 figures claims.

                They are of course attempting to maximize profit potential.

                No way in hell Glazkof would make 7 figures for step aside money and he'd most likely not make that much in any purse either, including vs Fury.
                I don't think a million dollar step aside fee is outside the realm of possibility. I'm sure Fury would love to keep all the belts & would pay a healthy amount for it. I don't think a million dollar purse to fight Fury or Klitschko is outside the realm of possibility. Okay maybe its only $750,000 or something, but its still the option thats going to get him paid the most without argument in the next 12 months.

                If he gets a belt and defends it a bit, he could net some decent cash. Maybe even setup a decent payday for a unification.

                That's the play here being worked on.
                And I contend that is a horrible play. As I've stated I doubt he gets by Charles Martin or Erkan Teper, his likely opponents in a vacant title fight. There is a huge "if" on that plan that there isn't on the Fury/Klitschko winner plan. Maybe they end up proving me wrong vs Martin or Teper, but I bet he doesn't make $1.5M-$2M+ like he would of before the end of 2016 taking the Fury/Klitschko winner road during his entire title reign.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Huh? How can you still be blaming Wilder?

                  The mandatory was due in January and Povetkin said he wasn't ready. So Wilder fights in January as scheduled.

                  Whilst we wait for Povetkin to stop stalling.
                  not alot of ppl like wilder, he talks, signed to haymon, and doesnt have that much of an impressive resume other than beating stiverne who was the no2 ranked HW when he beat him.

                  as far as not being able to fight his mandatory or glazkov, cant fault him that much, when the WBC ordered neogtiations for october, wilder already had a fight schduled for sept since povetkin just won the mandatory spot in march, wilder was allowed an extra mandatory bc no one was his mandatory before he took on molina i think. then povetkin took the wach fight after the wbc ordered negotiation for october, thus knowing full well it would delay the process and take the october negotiation off the table. then days before wach, after the wbc scheduled another negotiation to being for january, it was povetkin who said he wouldnt be ready, wilder did what most ppl would do, take another fight to stay active and the wbc didnt approve of it until provetkin team said they wont be ready for january.

                  for glazkov, if he wants to win a vacant belt rather than dethroning a champion, good for him, but he deserves to be criticize like everyone who takes that route, most recently with broner. they took a safe route, but the public will demand if glazkov wins the ibf title to unify, and well see if duva wants to come to the table or beg hbo to sign glazkov to a exclusive deal to keep that belt safe for her.

                  as far as wilder, i dont need to see him fight anyone unworthy, his resume is shaky as it is, fight artur s. next and then fight povetkin, then look to fury in the winter for a big fight. i dont need to see anymore molinas in the ring with him.

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                  • Bob Weaver
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                    Bet that coward would stomp your face in before you have a chance to dial 911, like most of you cyber thugs do
                    And he would too the unprofessional caveman scumbag!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      I think Wilder is one of the most active top HW's if not the most active. His Jan. 16 fight vs TBA (lol) will be his 4th fight in 12 months. I'm not sure the last time a HW champion has even had 4 HW title fights in a 12 month period regardless if they were "the champ" or "a champ".
                      Fighting bums and no names isn't activity but a joke making Wilder more of a clown than a champ.

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