Mayweather double standards when he talks about Ward and Golovkin

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't give a crap what jdj says....his isn't apart of the ward camp. Ward left 68 to get bigger fights and challenge himself.......Something lil g and his fans know very little about. The TS is ****ing ****** and you're right there with him if you believe that bs.

What bigger fights? Smith? lol. Ok.

[Vasyl’s dad]

His comeback fight was 172 because it had been 2 years. He and his team sent GGG an offer for a 168 fight in 2016 and he was turned down and sent to fight Kovalev by HBO.

Why is the Gold medalist at light heavyweight offering fights to guys at middleweight? Guys who are "overhyped and haven't fought anyone" at that.

[Scipio2009]

I never said GGG would get equal. If you want to argue, at least argue the points I was making ok? I said to that guy earlier in the thread that GGG would have taken the short change for the opportunity. A middleweight unification fight would have been worth at least a couple million to HBO. They wanted the Martinez/GGG fight badly and would have offered good money. The purse examples I was posting were non PPV purses that martinez and other get when HBO likes a fight.

I don't think that HBO was willing to put the type of money behind a Martinez-Golovkin card that you seem to believe that they were prepared to do, especially with Ken Hershman pinching pennies.

HBO hypothetical card:
-Sergio Martinez vs Gennady Golovkin
-quality enough TV co-feature

January 2014, how much do you believe HBO would've been willing to put for that show? Because, if you look at the payouts for the shows that they did pick up, you can't point to a single card where they laid out even $2m for a non-PPV fight outside of the Ward-Rodriguez fight.

I think you're overestimating how much HBO "badly wanted the fight"

[OnePunch]

I don't think that HBO was willing to put the type of money behind a Martinez-Golovkin card that you seem to believe that they were prepared to do, especially with Ken Hershman pinching pennies.

HBO hypothetical card:
-Sergio Martinez vs Gennady Golovkin
-quality enough TV co-feature

January 2014, how much do you believe HBO would've been willing to put for that show? Because, if you look at the payouts for the shows that they did pick up, you can't point to a single card where they laid out even $2m for a non-PPV fight outside of the Ward-Rodriguez fight.

I think you're overestimating how much HBO "badly wanted the fight"

Hey genius, I'm still waiting to hear how much you think Showtime paid for tonites Jacobs-Quillin show?


Im guessing you wont answer......lol

[Cinci Champ]

They say:



What is the double standard? I'll show you that actually the double standard is being used against GGG and in favour of Ward.

So when they want to make a Ward vs Kovalev fight, they're trying to get Andre Ward beat? And why don't you think the same when they try to make GGG vs Ward? It's clear that they want to see GGG lose. Not only because they want to see him against Ward at 168, but also because they want to see him against Canelo at 155. They want GGG to lose, badly.

At least Ward vs Kovalev is an even match, where both fighters would weight the same, have the same height, and reach. No difference at all, no advantages for anyone. So what's the matter? it's a fair match.

I want to know who forced Andre Ward to fight at 172 in his last fight? according to the whinners he is being forced to fight Kovalev? but I remember him fighthing at LHW last time, and there was no talk of "I'm being forced to move up" thing.

GGG vs Ward would be a guy almost two inch taller, weighting more, and having reach advantage, against a smaller guy.

So, the reality is that Mayweather and other wants to see GGG lose against a bigger opponent, having disadvantage in every department.

So they shouldn't talk about double standars, at all.

BUT, it gets even funnier, when Mayweather says:


That's what he says about Ward. If we replace the number 168 with the number 160 if we have the same standards, which supposedly Floyd has... then he should be OK with GGG staying at 160 and doing his thing there. But NO, he says: "I will be impressed with GGG when he moves up and beat Ward". Double standards? yes, against GGG.

And then he compares the whole situation with when he "had to" face Gatti, and talks like he was being put against a high risk. Lol Gatti had like 5 loses, no comparison to GGG or Ward who are undefeated. He tries to makes us believe he was involved in similar high risks fights.

He says there's a double standard against Ward, and actually the double standard is against GGG. No one is forzing these boxers to do anything, they are doing what they want and Ward is fighting at LHW since his last fight for some reason he knows. Ward can come down to 168 and do his thing there if he wants to.

how is it a double standard against ggg when they are not forcing him to fight ward like they are forcing ward to fight krusher? i guess in some dream world

[-Kev-]

Why is the Gold medalist at light heavyweight offering fights to guys at middleweight? Guys who are "overhyped and haven't fought anyone" at that.

Did you forget that we are not debating anymore?

I always come clean mijo. Take a step back though, you stay on my d1ck.

You never come clean.

And to the second one, what? Post evidence that I stay on your ****, I stay getting reply notifications from you without even starting a conversation with you

Screen shot the notifications then. I never engage you, its always you chasing me around. Look who is in who's thread right now.

I always come clean. Nothing I ever say is a lie.

I know that you're a hard head, I don't like starting conversations with you, you have an agenda/persona and you stick to it, i've learned that over the years. There's 4 conversations in my history, 3 started by you. This 4th one was started by me.

Your comment towards me is called "projection", attributing one's undesirable traits or actions to others.

Stop starting conversations with me and I will stop replying to you. You are going senile, making an issue out of things you started.

[Scipio2009]

ok genius, answer this:

Tonite Quillin got $1.5 million, and Jacobs got $1.5 million. The other tv fight was Cuellar $200k, and Oquendo $100k.

Are you seriously trying to argue that Showtime paid well in excess of $3.3 million for tonites show?

No. I would suggest, however, that Showtime likely paid out a rights fee that was closer to $3m than $2.5m.

Between the rights fee, the live gate at Barclays Center, BoxNation paying a fee to broadcast the fightcard in the UK, Corona being a sponsor for the event, and selling some merchandise for the event, I'm pretty sure that Lou Dibella ended up covering the costs for the event (rent for the venue, insurance, commission fees, ref/judges fees, marketing materials, promotional spots, undercard, fight purses, etc) and possibly made some money on top.

If he was ****** enough to take such a show with that big an outlay to TV, without a path to making money, he'd look as dumb as you're coming off here.

Before any contract go out to anyone for anything, any sensible person would work from a budget; figure out what the show would cost to put on and then figure what money the show could bring in. No good promoter gambles their stake , especially on a big blow-off fight like Quillin-Jacobs in NYC.

The fact that you want to believe that Dibella walked into this fight, banking on walk-up ticket sales, to see if he'd break even, is laughable.

[OnePunch]

how is it a double standard against ggg when they are not forcing him to fight ward like they are forcing ward to fight krusher? i guess in some dream world

nobody is forcing Ward to fight anyone. HBO simply told Ward they werent interested in his Paul Smith type fights unless he brought more to the dance.

[OnePunch]

No. I would suggest, however, that Showtime likely paid out a rights fee that was closer to $3m than $2.5m.

Between the rights fee, the live gate at Barclays Center, BoxNation paying a fee to broadcast the fightcard in the UK, Corona being a sponsor for the event, and selling some merchandise for the event, I'm pretty sure that Lou Dibella ended up covering the costs for the event (rent for the venue, insurance, commission fees, ref/judges fees, marketing materials, promotional spots, undercard, fight purses, etc) and possibly made some money on top.

If he was ****** enough to take such a show with that big an outlay to TV, without a path to making money, he'd look as dumb as you're coming off here.

Before any contract go out to anyone for anything, any sensible person would work from a budget; figure out what the show would cost to put on and then figure what money the show could bring in. No good promoter gambles their stake , especially on a big blow-off fight like Quillin-Jacobs in NYC.

The fact that you want to believe that Dibella walked into this fight, banking on walk-up ticket sales, to see if he'd break even, is laughable.

haha I KNEW you would get amnesia and try to change what you were saying. Just a few posts ago you were trying to claim that the US tv rights alone would cover the whole show, expenses, and some profit too.

But NOW you suggest a rights fee between $2.5 and $3 million, for a show where the 2 tv fights by themselves cost $3.3 million. And theres still an undercard and venue and other expenses to pay.

Face it. Youre a complete tool who runs your mouth about things you dont know the first thing about. You're dumber than a box of hair.

Or maybe you know more about promoting than Dibella does

[DinoCop]

If i was one of those who decide on boxers' fate and money makers, i would like to see GGG win, Canelo win, create a hype for several years, then organize a mega-fight btw them.n