Mayweather double standards when he talks about Ward and Golovkin

[deanrw]

lol Golovkin was only able to make $1.5m because Willie Monroe only took $100k. How about you try and average out the three fights before that.

For argument's sake, you should probably try averaging out Martinez's prior three fight purses as well.

I dont have all his purse figures, but HBO put up 3.25 Million for him vs Williams 2nd fight for example for them to split 50/50

He was making good money

[Scipio2009]

Why is he fighting at 172?

Because, bell to bell, Andre Ward had gone 19 months between fight and his camp, being the careful, patient folks that they are (the long development for Ward as a young pro wasn't something done on accident), wanted to make absolutely sure that he would have no issues getting into the ring after so long a layoff.

Ward basically being at the contracted weight, three weeks before the fight, showed how his camps prudence was overstated and unneeded.

use your mind

[Scipio2009]

thats what the live gate, foreign sales, sponsors, advertising, merchandise, etc is for.........

If you, as a promoter, are willing to put a fight on TV, for a channel where you make no money for putting the fight on TV, you are the definition of an utter **** promoter.

Canelo-Kirkland, even after the hooplah of 40k people in attendance, only did $2m at the gate, before deducting the costs related to actually putting on the fight (renting of the venue, insurance fees, marketing/promotion for the events, various sanctioning fees, etc).

Imagine how ****ing ****** a promoter Oscar De La Hoya would've been if he were to actually put on an event not expecting to make any money off of the US TV rights. gtfoh.

[OnePunch]

If you, as a promoter, are willing to put a fight on TV, for a channel where you make no money for putting the fight on TV, you are the definition of an utter **** promoter.

Canelo-Kirkland, even after the hooplah of 40k people in attendance, only did $2m at the gate, before deducting the costs related to actually putting on the fight (renting of the venue, insurance fees, marketing/promotion for the events, various sanctioning fees, etc).

Imagine how ****ing ****** a promoter Oscar De La Hoya would've been if he were to actually put on an event not expecting to make any money off of the US TV rights. gtfoh.

you're an idiot. Its commonplace for the promoter to try and get the rights fees to cover the tv fights, and use the other revenue streams for other expenses and profit. If promoters only used your brilliant logic, there would be no risk, and a promoter would never lose money. Only problem is, 80% of the fights would never get made.

You dont know jack **** about what you're talking about.

[Scipio2009]

I dont have all his purse figures, but HBO put up 3.25 Million for him vs Williams 2nd fight for example for them to split 50/50

He was making good money

2010 was a long time ago, and at least one regime change ago as well.

Beyond that, the timing of this hypothetical Martinez vs Golovkin fight seems to run about in line with the epic HBO blockbuster that was Golovkin vs Osumanu Adama....

Martinez-Williams II (a rematch of two fighters with somewhat name profiles, from a fight that went to split decision) for $3m seems reasonable enough.

Martinez-Golovkin for $3m, at a time when HBO was already penny pinching? not so much

[deanrw]

2010 was a long time ago, and at least one regime change ago as well.

Beyond that, the timing of this hypothetical Martinez vs Golovkin fight seems to run about in line with the epic HBO blockbuster that was Golovkin vs Osumanu Adama....

Martinez-Williams II (a rematch of two fighters with somewhat name profiles, from a fight that went to split decision) for $3m seems reasonable enough.

Martinez-Golovkin for $3m, at a time when HBO was already penny pinching? not so much

I never said GGG would get equal. If you want to argue, at least argue the points I was making ok? I said to that guy earlier in the thread that GGG would have taken the short change for the opportunity. A middleweight unification fight would have been worth at least a couple million to HBO. They wanted the Martinez/GGG fight badly and would have offered good money. The purse examples I was posting were non PPV purses that martinez and other get when HBO likes a fight.

[mick1303]

Ward has already been tested and come through against world class opposition.

Golovkin hasn't. It's not about wanting him to be beat, it's about wanting him to be tested.

Lucky for him, the people around him have managed to manuver him away from Ward because they don't want him to lose or look bad.

"manuvering" middleweight away from SMW/LHW is an easy-peasy thing. Just continue to be what you are - middleweight. All this hate for GGG is due to the fact that he is a roadblock for Mayweather and Co making more money. Of course "slick" groupies are p**d off...

[Scipio2009]

you're an idiot. Its commonplace for the promoter to try and get the rights fees to cover the tv fights, and use the other revenue streams for other expenses and profit. If promoters only used your brilliant logic, there would be no risk, and a promoter would never lose money. Only problem is, 80% of the fights would never get made.

You dont know jack **** about what you're talking about.

You are literally trying to argue that a fight promoter will happily take a fight card to TV, knowing that they shouldn't expect any money from the TV. lol

No wonder you're only an imaginary promoter on NSB.

[OnePunch]

You are literally trying to argue that a fight promoter will happily take a fight card to TV, knowing that they shouldn't expect any money from the TV. lol

No wonder you're only an imaginary promoter on NSB.

dude, you really should just stop.

you are trying to say that not only does the domestic rights fee cover all the event costs and even provide some profit, but in addition the promoter keeps the live gate, foreign rights, advertising, sponsors, merchandise, and on and on??

You say alot of really ****** **** on here, but wow, this is definitely top 5..........

[OnePunch]

You are literally trying to argue that a fight promoter will happily take a fight card to TV, knowing that they shouldn't expect any money from the TV. lol

No wonder you're only an imaginary promoter on NSB.

ok genius, answer this:

Tonite Quillin got $1.5 million, and Jacobs got $1.5 million. The other tv fight was Cuellar $200k, and Oquendo $100k.

Are you seriously trying to argue that Showtime paid well in excess of $3.3 million for tonites show?