"Froch doesn't need the money" vs "Khan is ****** to turn down $5 million"

[alexguiness]

What's so funny? He beat a legitimate fighter in Provodnikov to become a World Champion. That win is better than anything Crawford has done that's for sure.

Oh Christ...help this poor soul.

[Box-Office]

Joe Calzaghe is a far superior fighter to Amir Khan. I don't even know what this post is supposed to illustrate.

Didn't Kevin Mitchell snatch Bredis Prescott's 0? The same Prescott who almost ended Khan's life in 54 seconds?

If we're talking careers. It'd be Calzaghe, Froch and then..........Khan.

A distance third place.

Rivals. Mitchell isn't Khan's rival, Kell is. Thats what I meant. Now compare Khan with Kell, the latter has an absolute comedy of a resume.



To each his own.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

At the end # of World Champs beaten:

Khan=9

Froch=7

Like I said, Khanturds always pull these kind of faceless meaningless stats out of the bag as if they prove a point.

It doesn't tell you that guys like Collazo, Barrera etc were world champions damn near a decade before they fought Khan.

At the end of the day....

Froch fought everyone in his division that mattered and only had one clear cut loss to Andre Ward.

Amir Khan didn't fight a live body at 135lbs and got absolutely smashed to bits in 57 seconds by a Colombian bog cleaner

He didn't fight everyone at 140lbs and got cleaned out again by the best guy he fought there, Garcia.

And his welterweight resume isn't even worth mentioning. He's ducked every legit threat to fight softer touches.

#SimpleAsThat

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Rivals. Mitchell isn't Khan's rival, Kell is. Thats what I meant. Now compare Khan with Kell, the latter has an absolute comedy of a resume.

I don't get what bringing up Joe Calzaghe had to do with this thread.

Except highlighting how far away Khan is from his and Froch's achievements.

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Like I said, Khanturds always pull these kind of faceless meaningless stats out of the bag as if they prove a point.

It doesn't tell you that guys like Collazo, Barrera etc were world champions damn near a decade before they fought Khan.

At the end of the day....

Froch fought everyone in his division that mattered and only had one clear cut loss to Andre Ward.

Amir Khan didn't fight a live body at 135lbs and got absolutely smashed to bits in 57 seconds by a Colombian bog cleaner

He didn't fight everyone at 140lbs and got cleaned out again by the best guy he fought there, Garcia.

And his welterweight resume isn't even worth mentioning. He's ducked every legit threat to fight softer touches.

#SimpleAsThat

Yeah, because the ones Froch fought were in their prime right? Out of the six, Glen Johnson was a fossil and never that good to begin with, Kessler was shot, do I even mention Robin Reid?


You're right that stat doesn't tell us how guys like Bradley and Marquez have turned down fights with King. I mean a chinny guy, easy pay day was ducked by as you dubbed him one of the greatest of this generation or how Froch not only lost, but Ward decimated him with one hand.




p.s. I counted Ward mistakenly, it was actually 6.

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I don't get what bringing up Joe Calzaghe had to do with this thread.

Except highlighting how far away Khan is from his and Froch's achievements.

That's just your thing now, sh.it on every thing pro-Khan, the same losses/wins you once defended. So, I'm not bothered about the bold plus as I mentioned, to each his own. You're gonna believe what you want to believe in.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah, because the ones Froch fought were in their prime right? Out of the six, Glen Johnson was a fossil and never that good to begin with, Kessler was shot, do I even mention Robin Reid?


You're right that stat doesn't tell us how guys like Bradley and Marquez have turned down fights with King. I mean a chinny guy, easy pay day was ducked by as you dubbed him one of the greatest of this generation or how Froch not only lost, but Ward decimated him with one hand.




p.s. I counted Ward mistakenly, it was actually 6.

I don't see how Kessler was shot. Marco Antonio Barrera was shot because he hadn't been relevant for years, was fighting bums in Mexico and was a career featherweight - that's the definition of being shot. He was basically brought out of a coffin to fight Khan.

Comparing the likes of Barrera/Collazo to Kessler/Johnson is simply disingenuous.

Kessler fought a close fight with Froch (I had Froch winning in Denmark) and took a year hiatus. He then came back and scored 3 knockout wins over the likes of Green and Magee who were fringe world level opponents - I don't know where and how he displayed this shot-ness you speak of.

I had Glen Johnson beating Tavoris Cloud and Chad Dawson (1st fight), he knocked out Green too. Still a very relevant fighter when Froch fought him. Froch was the first one to really beat him up since Hopkins back in the day.

At the end of the day, you can run down Froch's resume all day long but please tell me one person he didn't fight at his weight class. He literally fought everyone and only had one clear loss to Ward on points.

If Froch's resume is "overrated" then I feel sorry for the rest of the fighters out there.

Khanturds clearly have a vendetta against Froch - the least you could do is admit that.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's just your thing now, sh.it on every thing pro-Khan, the same losses/wins you once defended. So, I'm not bothered about the bold plus as I mentioned, to each his own. You're gonna believe what you want to believe in.

I think Khan has a good resume at 140lbs, I've never said otherwise. Kotelnik, Maidana, Peterson etc are solid wins.

I said the loss against Prescott shouldn't still be held against him i.e people still calling for a rematch BUUUUT it's still part of his record, it doesn't disappear.

Carl Froch never got wiped out in under a minute by a nobody like that. So if you want to compare resumes then you best believe that's going to be brought up.

Khan has also ruined his reputation and legacy by turning into a b1tch and refusing tough challenges.

Guys like Algieri and Alexander are decent fighters on their own merit but when you compare them to who he could and should have fought instead, they simply don't match up.

They are also clearly hand-picked to be tailor made for Khan's style i.e soft punching "boxer" types.

You can't really say the same for Froch at any point in his career. I think he had one soft touch in his entire championship run and he fought many guys he was supposed to lose to and had difficult styles for him.

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I don't see how Kessler was shot. Marco Antonio Barrera was shot because he hadn't been relevant for years, was fighting bums in Mexico and was a career featherweight - that's the definition of being shot. He was basically brought out of a coffin to fight Khan.


Comparing the likes of Barrera/Collazo to Kessler/Johnson is simply disingenuous


Kessler fought a close fight with Froch (I had Froch winning in Denmark) and took a year hiatus. He then came back and scored 3 knockout wins over the likes of Green and Magee who were fringe world level opponents - I don't know where and how he displayed this shot-ness you speak of.

I can agree to that, but Kessler was certainly worn down, he didn't stick around after cuz he knew he was limited to beating fringe World level guys, he was finished at top level & thats when Carl got to him.

I don't remember equating those 4, but anyhow:


MAB was shot, no question, but Khan fought him as a prospect coming off (Fa.gan was't much of a win) what potentially ended his career in eyes of many (including even me) is what makes it worth something. No, that's not equal to Kessler at all.


Collazo is certainly equal to Johnson, now before you laugh hear me out, Glen's win over Tarver is better than anything Luis has done, which isn't much, but it is the timing of when they landed Khan/Froch is what makes those wins equal.

I had Glen Johnson beating Tavoris Cloud and Chad Dawson (1st fight), he knocked out Green too. Still a very relevant fighter when Froch fought him. Froch was the first one to really beat him up since Hopkins back in the day.

At the end of the day, you can run down Froch's resume all day long but please tell me one person he didn't fight at his weight class. He literally fought everyone and only had one clear loss to Ward on points.

If Froch's resume is "overrated" then I feel sorry for the rest of the fighters out there.

Khanturds clearly have a vendetta against Froch - the least you could do is admit that.

The Cloud fight was not an issue, but the first Dawson bout where he was screwed was 3 yrs before Froch. He was clearly outpointed in the rematch. Green (vs Glen) was himself coming off a loss. He was an okay win.


Froch ducked Groves, he was more than happy to run away with that sham win, but his hand was forced by Groves by appealing to IBF, now George should get credit for that, in fact he should've won Promoter of the Year for it. Carl turned down a fight with Calzaghe before he became a mandatory.


Its not over rated, but people think beating Groves is some sort of a legacy maker, while he was only a contender with his best win being a green Degale, which he won in a razor sharp, though fair decision. Pascal and Dirrell were also contenders, Andre still is and that fight could be given to Dirrell if it wasn't in Nottingham.

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I think Khan has a good resume at 140lbs, I've never said otherwise. Kotelnik, Maidana, Peterson etc are solid wins.

I said the loss against Prescott shouldn't still be held against him i.e people still calling for a rematch BUUUUT it's still part of his record, it doesn't disappear.

Carl Froch never got wiped out in under a minute by a nobody like that. So if you want to compare resumes then you best believe that's going to be brought up.

Khan has also ruined his reputation and legacy by turning into a b1tch and refusing tough challenges.

Guys like Algieri and Alexander are decent fighters on their own merit but when you compare them to who he could and should have fought instead, they simply don't match up.

They are also clearly hand-picked to be tailor made for Khan's style i.e soft punching "boxer" types.

You can't really say the same for Froch at any point in his career. I think he had one soft touch in his entire championship run and he fought many guys he was supposed to lose to and had difficult styles for him.

Khan fought everybody at 140 lbs, win/lose, one guy needed roids to win a close decision, he was ducked by Bradley and JMM.

Whereas, Froch fought to get recognition, Khan already had it, yet did so anyhow. He could've stayed in England and defend his WBA belt vs nobodies for a dozen defenses.



Getting wiped out by nobodies happens to the best of them, while losing to Ward is no shame, getting out muscled and manhandled over 12 rounds vs a guy with one hand broken in TWO places isn't normal.


Khan's career is still active, so his legacy is yet to be determined.