Comments Thread For: Mayweather Says Pacquiao Was Better Than Expected

[Rath]

lol... im not too sure what that all mean but floyd is TBE.

"Teh Bestest Eva" yall noe what im sayin..

that was what genius floyd fan been trying to do ever since floyd can not get hold of those award you mentioned.

Genius floyd fans "who has the best resume? " 20 threads.

[Outworn]

that was what genius floyd fan been trying to do ever since floyd can not get hold of those award you mentioned.

Genius floyd fans "who has the best resume? " 20 threads.

Right. Now I get ya.. they all be like cryin like froidy floyd cryweather



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[The plunger man]

Thats what ring generals do and these few pac idiots in here dont understand it .

Reloaded I think you seriously need to sit down and regain some knowledge of what ring generalship means and how fights should be scored , first 1 is scoring on clean punches landed and it's been shown clearly on repeated reruns that floyd either missed or landed on the gloves & arms of pacquiao so that is one point where the judges were either way off or something corrupt was going on , 2nd point is Pacquaio had the more one sided dominant rounds on his side than MAYWEATHER and besides round 1 & 2 all of mayweathers rounds were razor thin close and hard to seperate them, 3rdly Kenny bayless whether he was paid off or biased was appalling and his refusal to penalise floyd for continued holding , wrenching of arms, headlocks, hooking with an open glove was suspect to say the least, then we have the one sided treatment by USADA and NSAC in terms of I.Vs and refusal to let pacquaio have his legal injection and his vitamins and Gatorade in his dressing room and the preferential treatment towards floyd , I'm not saying pacquaio beat mayweather I'm saying it was razor close and there is no way on earth that floyd beat pacquaio by more than 2 rounds.....I either had it a draw or mayweather by one round, ring generalship and running & spoiling are not the same criterial for scoring a fight.....a fit pacquaio rips mayweather apart if mayweather ever manned up and faced him again

[HanzGruber]

how do you score fights? based on what guy you like better? so the way to prove that someone wins is not to introduce any evidence? i'm glad courts don't work like that. we are so confident that we submit no evidence! hmmm ok your case is thrown out.

i think pac should have won and the rules of judging support me on this. the slow motion is really for people like you, people that think floyd is landing when he isn't. people that think hitting a glove should count the same as hitting a guy flush in the face. people that think a grazing jab is worth the same as a power punch.

i thought it was very close fight live so i wanted to go back and see who really was getting the better of it in those oh so close rounds. you probably won't ever go back because you don't want to know the truth. you are not intellectually curious. its just easier to say floyd won. why not go back and watch it and create an argument for floyd winning? why not prove he won to not only me but yourself? your reasoning that floyd won seems to be an appeal to popularity. mine is based on the action and punches inside the ring.

my argument that pac won is this: first of all you have to throw out every preconceived notion of how a fighter usually fights. if you think pac's some come forward no defense whirlwind and he suddenly starts boxing that doesn't mean he automatically loses. saying he's not doing what he wants to do is entirely subjective and invites bias because you don't know what he wanted to do. he fought algeiri and rios the same way so did they win too?what matters is who is landing punches through any means possible. going forward, backwards, standing there. having a reputation for a brawler, boxer, simply doesn't matter and a good judge won't be effected by the things fighters bring into a fight. they will only see that fight in a vacuum.

clean punching=pac won this category clearly in rounds 3,4,6-10. in a couple of rounds the amount of landed punches was almost exactly the same(compubox was not accurate) but the rules say clean punching and pac's punches were landing clean and flush(making an impact). also the vast majority of pac's punches were power punches while over half of floyd's lands were jabs. now a good jab can be as good as a power shot but the majority of floyd's jabs barely touched pac. so in a close round i'm going to give it to the guy who is landing the much cleaner punches and who also landed more power punches. that was pac in those 7 rounds. also floyd was badly hurt in 4 and 6, and also briefly stunned in 2 other rounds, i believe 7 and 8, or 8 and 9. you can watch the slow mo of these rounds if you doubt me to see how the quality of pacs punches was much better and cleaner than floyd's.

defense=pac won this category in those 7 rounds as well. making your opponent miss, blocking, parrying, slipping, and rolling punches enabled pac to barely get hit flush. floyd on the other hand while his defense was solid he still was being hit flush time and time again. floyd did some things to keep pac at bay and some people erroneously give him credit under defense. these things are holding and bending below the waist. these things are illegal so obviously you can't give him credit for doing illegal things. it would be like giving someone credit for low blows under clean punches. even with these illegal tactics he still did not have the better defense in those 7 rounds.

ring generalship=this is an entirely subjective category. i've heard a million different ways to define it. i just don't see how you can be the ring general if what you are doing is leading to you being hit flush a lot more than you are hitting your opponent. being the ring general to me means are you putting yourself in position to land the better punches whether going forward, backwards or just standing there it in the middle of the ring. pac got the better in 7 rounds. floyd in 5.

effective aggression=this category is also entirely subjective. you could make a good argument that pac's aggression forced floyd into illegal tactics like clinching and bending below the waist.

the most important thing in boxing is landing clean punches. all the other categories are just a way to get the boxer to clean punching. what it comes down to is are clean punches better or are grazing punches that don't land very clean better. if you took the names and personalities of floyd and pac out of the equation and answered the question honestly i think you would go for the clean punching.

Holy shlt. Any body actually read this?

[IronDanHamza]

Holy shlt. Any body actually read this?

Daggum's inevitable meltdown has been a sight to see

[b00g13man]

Holy shlt. Any body actually read this?

I've got him on ignore, but thanks for quoting this gem.

[SCEN3RY]

I don't see what's so surprising about these comments. The fight speaks for itself, he showed Pac respect the entire night.

[aboutfkntime]

Reloaded I think you seriously need to sit down and regain some knowledge of what ring generalship means and how fights should be scored , first 1 is scoring on clean punches landed and it's been shown clearly on repeated reruns that floyd either missed or landed on the gloves & arms of pacquiao so that is one point where the judges were either way off or something corrupt was going on , 2nd point is Pacquaio had the more one sided dominant rounds on his side than MAYWEATHER and besides round 1 & 2 all of mayweathers rounds were razor thin close and hard to seperate them, 3rdly Kenny bayless whether he was paid off or biased was appalling and his refusal to penalise floyd for continued holding , wrenching of arms, headlocks, hooking with an open glove was suspect to say the least, then we have the one sided treatment by USADA and NSAC in terms of I.Vs and refusal to let pacquaio have his legal injection and his vitamins and Gatorade in his dressing room and the preferential treatment towards floyd , I'm not saying pacquaio beat mayweather I'm saying it was razor close and there is no way on earth that floyd beat pacquaio by more than 2 rounds.....I either had it a draw or mayweather by one round, ring generalship and running & spoiling are not the same criterial for scoring a fight.....a fit pacquaio rips mayweather apart if mayweather ever manned up and faced him again

you are an idiot kid.....





Only a very young - and most likely ****** - casual fan, would attempt to argue that Pacquiao won that fight.

have some self-respect man

[Rath]

Floyd's worst than expected

[screwhead1]

This thread has me in stitches!