"Too Fast" Fury vs "Dr. Steelhammer" Klitschko II: Who wins?

[Earl-Hickey]

I rewatched the first fight last night and fury was actually a bit more dominant than I remembered, their wasn't a ton of activity but he threw more than i remembered and he wasn't loathe to engage, he was wanting to counter Wlad but wlad threw nothing because fury was always just outside his range and ready to throw a counter.

I don't see Wladamir being able to do things differently in the rematch, even when he did open up at the end of the fight I still thought fury was doing better in that situation

[Jewish-Reptile]

I rewatched the first fight last night and fury was actually a bit more dominant than I remembered, their wasn't a ton of activity but he threw more than i remembered and he wasn't loathe to engage, he was wanting to counter Wlad but wlad threw nothing because fury was always just outside his range and ready to throw a counter.

I don't see Wladamir being able to do things differently in the rematch, even when he did open up at the end of the fight I still thought fury was doing better in that situation

Their really wasnt a vast margin in the punch statistics. It was as though neither knew how to win the fight Fury landed less than a hundred punches, Wlad landed around two thirds of what Fury did with around about fifty.

The power punching was even more telling from both, if Wlad was gunshy what was Fury ? When I say telling their really is not much to tell ! A story in itself.

I think the only ones who deserve credit in this fight are the ones who are able to go back and be able to watch the rematch, it was an exceptionally dull awkward affair and the likes of Parker, Joshua and Wilder must be licking their lips thinking those titles are there for the taking.

You say Wlad may not be able to do anything different in the rematch and by his inability to land a right hand in the Jennings fight you may very well be right , Jennings although a limited fighter would never have gone the distance with Klitshcko 4-5 years previously. The way Ortiz has peaked and powered past the low level of opposition such as Jennings really shows where Klitschko is at right now.

The one element I do however find interesting regarding this fight is Wlad has his power still and that for me is enough to keep him in the fight all the way through against a guy who has more than questionable durability, when the pressure is on Fury has shown he has to resort to underhand tactics, something Wlad was never really able to exploit as he threw less than he did versus Jennings.

I can't see Fury doing anything different as he knows if he allows one opening and Wlad having the boxing brain he does the fight will likely be ended by a solitary punch, the same punch Fury unfortunately does not posess.

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lol @ these jokers thinking that Wladimir is suddenly going to reinvent himself as some come forward brawler.

As soon as the bell rings, it'll be the same old robot in there. Fury to win even easier this time.

Even if it was an absolute prime version of Wlad, Fury would still outbox him. He's just the more skilled fighter.

[Earl-Hickey]

Their really wasnt a vast margin in the punch statistics. It was as though neither knew how to win the fight Fury landed less than a hundred punches, Wlad landed around two thirds of what Fury did with around about fifty.

The power punching was even more telling from both, if Wlad was gunshy what was Fury ? When I say telling their really is not much to tell ! A story in itself.

I think the only ones who deserve credit in this fight are the ones who are able to go back and be able to watch the rematch, it was an exceptionally dull awkward affair and the likes of Parker, Joshua and Wilder must be licking their lips thinking those titles are there for the taking.

You say Wlad may not be able to do anything different in the rematch and by his inability to land a right hand in the Jennings fight you may very well be right , Jennings although a limited fighter would never have gone the distance with Klitshcko 4-5 years previously. The way Ortiz has peaked and powered past the low level of opposition such as Jennings really shows where Klitschko is at right now.

The one element I do however find interesting regarding this fight is Wlad has his power still and that for me is enough to keep him in the fight all the way through against a guy who has more than questionable durability, when the pressure is on Fury has shown he has to resort to underhand tactics, something Wlad was never really able to exploit as he threw less than he did versus Jennings.

I can't see Fury doing anything different as he knows if he allows one opening and Wlad having the boxing brain he does the fight will likely be ended by a solitary punch, the same punch Fury unfortunately does not posess.

If you take out trolling or bias, fury quite clearly knew how to win the fight

he was a young, unproven contender going to face the 10 year champ in his own territory, and he did what he had to to win quite easily without needing to risk much. Plenty of fighters have "come forward" at the klitschko brothers, and 99% of them fail miserably, Fury was able to use a unique style to get the job done, and he has to be given credit for that, he used what he had and he got it done. The guys "licking their chops" that you mentioned would all come forward, and most likely walk straight into the klitschko jab and be in prime range for the right hand, it's not as simple as people seem to think.

at the end of the day, nobody else has even come close to beating wladamir in the last decade so for him to go there and get a convincing points win in the eyes of all neutral observers and most importantly the judges, he obviously was doing something right.

It's funny with the fury haters because they say he has no chin, and then they criticize him for using a defensive style, so they are saying they want a guy with poor punch resistence to abandon his defence and leave himself open to punches from probably the hardest puncher in the division.

If he had done that, and got ko'd he'd be called a "glass jawed fraud" by those same haters who criticize him for winning a fight using a defensive style.

So basically they are just saying they want to see him knocked out.

lol.

[Jewish-Reptile]

If you take out trolling or bias, fury quite clearly knew how to win the fight

he was a young, unproven contender going to face the 10 year champ in his own territory, and he did what he had to to win quite easily without needing to risk much. Plenty of fighters have "come forward" at the klitschko brothers, and 99% of them fail miserably, Fury was able to use a unique style to get the job done, and he has to be given credit for that, he used what he had and he got it done. The guys "licking their chops" that you mentioned would all come forward, and most likely walk straight into the klitschko jab and be in prime range for the right hand, it's not as simple as people seem to think.

at the end of the day, nobody else has even come close to beating wladamir in the last decade so for him to go there and get a convincing points win in the eyes of all neutral observers and most importantly the judges, he obviously was doing something right.

It's funny with the fury haters because they say he has no chin, and then they criticize him for using a defensive style, so they are saying they want a guy with poor punch resistence to abandon his defence and leave himself open to punches from probably the hardest puncher in the division.

If he had done that, and got ko'd he'd be called a "glass jawed fraud" by those same haters who criticize him for winning a fight using a defensive style.

So basically they are just saying they want to see him knocked out.

lol.

Make no bones about it I'd love to see him knocked out, the guy is a clown. And judging by his 'unique' style I wouldn't bank against it being a long time before he is in fact nailed to the canvass.

My issue is the excitement factor, Fury is attempting to sell himself as something he clearly is not, quite like Briggs is really, the two are comparable. Both talk way more than they can fight and when it comes to the crunch they fight within a shell. Klitschko never claimed to be excited and his fans never claimed him to be the saviour of the division. Two statements that are truly cringeworthy going by his last few fights.

Jennings did as well as any other challenger in recent memory before Fury, only he hadn't the experience, brains or cultivating to make an impression on the cards. He utilised the same tactics as Povetkin, low hard bull rushing, he didnt really fight much different I think that in itself is a sign of decline from Klitschko how he wasn't able to land on Jennings as he was Povetkin.

Fury did well to avoid Klitschko when he was offered the fight in 2012, and then ultimately through his inactivity through 2013 and 2014, really Fury and his fans owes a MASSIVE debt of gratitude to Haye.

[Jewish-Reptile]

lol @ these jokers thinking that Wladimir is suddenly going to reinvent himself as some come forward brawler.

As soon as the bell rings, it'll be the same old robot in there. Fury to win even easier this time.

Even if it was an absolute prime version of Wlad, Fury would still outbox him. He's just the more skilled fighter.

I think you'll find a lot of ardent Klitschko supporters believing Fury will now win the rematch in the same fashion he did before, not by KO not myself anyway I don't see Fury doing anything differently if truth be told, his reservations over his durability hamper his ability to entertain on this level, clearly he is not facing a Chisora or Abell or somebody else on that level.

Fury fought his heart out that night and managed to just eek out the result with his 83 punches landed, by the time the bell rang he looked relieved he hadn't to fight another round like the intensity of the last.

I think you're right about the same robot Klitschko, he'll methodically and patiently wait for an opening and should Fury switch off for a moment Wlad will blow him out with a solitary punch. Thankfully Wlad still possesses the Steelhammer if not the punch output he had around 2009-2011.

[Weltschmerz]

lol @ these jokers thinking that Wladimir is suddenly going to reinvent himself as some come forward brawler.

As soon as the bell rings, it'll be the same old robot in there. Fury to win even easier this time.

Even if it was an absolute prime version of Wlad, Fury would still outbox him. He's just the more skilled fighter.

He has yet to prove this...

[MrRolltide91]

Fury by sd.....

[LoadedWraps]

Correct assessment. It's a cliché but Vladimir has to dig deep late in his career and use his vast experience to show the difference; then he should be able to do the job on the night. Fury isn't special; Vlad has to show his class a final time.

Few words better describe Tyson Fury than special. I hope Wlad comes in guns blazing, so we can see Fury outbox him and hurt him, only at a higher rate and in more impressive fashion.

[Weltschmerz]

Few words better describe Tyson Fury than special. I hope Wlad comes in guns blazing, so we can see Fury outbox him and hurt him, only at a higher rate and in more impressive fashion.

He is special, as in bipolar and possibly tourette. Hopefully Vlad puts a clinic on him.