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  • Pozomuro
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    #61
    Take a selfie with those belts you big acromegalic fat fu.. because they won't last long around your waste.

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      #62
      Originally posted by kafkod
      That's completely irrelevant.

      Even more so as Povetkin wasn't the WBC No1 and he wasn't Wilder's mando when Wlad beat him.

      You are a fkn turd for supporting the fact that the WBC did not mandate Wladimir Klitschko to Deontay Wilder.

      Casual fans should be tied up, pissed on, then dragged behind a horse.

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      • kafkod
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        #63
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        You are a fkn turd for supporting the fact that the WBC did not mandate Wladimir Klitschko to Deontay Wilder.

        Casual fans should be tied up, pissed on, then dragged behind a horse.
        What the fuck are you talking about?

        If it was up to me Wlad would have fought Stiverne instead of Wilder and unified all 4 belts.

        But, unfortunately, it was Al Haymon who was calling the shots with the WBC, not me, and I wasn't consulted.

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          #64
          Originally posted by kafkod
          What the fuck are you talking about?

          If it was up to me Wlad would have fought Stiverne instead of Wilder and unified all 4 belts.

          But, unfortunately, it was Al Haymon who was calling the shots with the WBC, not me, and I wasn't consulted.

          Kid, when you made this statement.....

          Originally posted by kafkod
          Povetkin wasn't the WBC No1 and he wasn't Wilder's mando when Wlad beat him.
          ..... you were making silly excuses to justify why Wladimir Klitschko should not be allowed to fight for the WBC heavyweight title.

          Now, you switch to blaming Haymon ?

          In truth, Wlad should almost have been handed that title by his brother.

          There is NO reason on earth why Wladimir Klitschko should not have been the first in line to fight for that title once his brother retired, especially considering the fact that he was OBVIOUSLY the best heavyweight on the planet back in 2013.

          ..... so you are an asshat for making those THREE excuses.

          You should be embarrassed..... because for most of the last decade, if it was suggested to even the silliest casual fan that Stiverne - or anyone else for that matter - was a heavyweight champ..... they would likely respond..... don't be ******, the best heavyweight is that big Russian guy who looks like that fighter in the Rocky movies

          Pretty dumb for a supposed boxing guy man, even drunks know who WK is.

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            #65
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            Kid, when you made this statement.....



            ..... you were making silly excuses to justify why Wladimir Klitschko should not be allowed to fight for the WBC heavyweight title.

            Now, you switch to blaming Haymon ?

            In truth, Wlad should almost have been handed that title by his brother.

            There is NO reason on earth why Wladimir Klitschko should not have been the first in line to fight for that title once his brother retired, especially considering the fact that he was OBVIOUSLY the best heavyweight on the planet back in 2013.

            ..... so you are an asshat for making those THREE excuses.

            You should be embarrassed..... because for most of the last decade, if it was suggested to even the silliest casual fan that Stiverne - or anyone else for that matter - was a heavyweight champ..... they would likely respond..... don't be ******, the best heavyweight is that big Russian guy who looks like that fighter in the Rocky movies

            Pretty dumb for a supposed boxing guy man, even drunks know who WK is.
            If you want to call people names and argue pointlessly over something that's already history, the Mayweather IV thread is still open.

            I agree with everything you said about Wlad but, as I said, I wasn't consulted in the matter.

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            • Luiz
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                #67
                Originally posted by saint laurent
                Cinci Champ -

                If Team Fury didn't think losing was a possibility, there would be absolutely no reason to accept a rematch clause. Fury would have had Klitschko by the balls had he fought and won without a rematch clause.

                However, the safe and smart move is to accept a large sum in exchange for a rematch clause because that way you're still getting that extra money win or lose.

                But if you seriously believe they didn't think losing was possible, there would be no explanation for them giving up so much leverage in the rematch by agreeing to terms in advance.


                About Time -

                I can't figure out what you're talking about. GGG became the WBC mandatory because there was an interim WBC champion and GGG went out and beat him for the belt.

                How in the world could the WBC have mandated the WBA champion to fight Deontay? Doesn't make any sense.
                Beating the real champ or fighting some guy for a vacated belt which one would you rather do. Be the real world champ or just some title holder

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by saint laurent
                  Vicious -

                  Haymon does about equal business with the WBC and WBA. Between the two, he usually has about a dozen world champions at any given time. He's also now starting to accumulate IBF titles as well. He pretty much ignores the WBO, which has become the Top Rank/HBO championship.


                  Fury Win -

                  Wladimir did not have the power to force a rematch clause on Fury as Fury was the MANDATORY challenger. Fury VOLUNTARILY agreed to a rematch clause because he was paid handsomely to do so. He knew the IBF mandatory was due and that in the event he beat Klitschko, he'd most likely have to give up the IBF title to honor the rematch clause. He made a business decision to accept payment for the clause. Nobody forced him to do it.

                  The organizations should not be expected to delay mandatories to accomodate rematch clauses. Organization rules make it very clear that rematch clauses are not valid.

                  At the end of the day, it's a loss for the sport. Fury deserves to be recognized as the #1 heavyweight in the world, but it hurts Fury, the IBF and the sport as a whole for Fury to throw the belt away. Makes you wonder how confident his team was that he was going to win because there'd be no reason to accept payment for a rematch clause if you're confident you're going to win.
                  Fury taking the rematch is the best decision for the sport and himself. Wlad is going to be 40 years old, and if Fury decides to honor his mandatory IBF defense then I could foresee Wlad taking another fight and very well might end up losing said fight. If that is the case then that's millions of dollars down the drain for the rematch that wouldn't ever be viable with a guy like Glazkov. The rematch is the smartest move financially, and the best move for the sport for either Fury to cement his win and begin his reign, or be exposed as a fluke win.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    If you want to call people names and argue pointlessly over something that's already history, the Mayweather IV thread is still open.

                    I agree with everything you said about Wlad but, as I said, I wasn't consulted in the matter.

                    No, you weren't consulted..... but you went ahead and decided to make 3 ****** excuses to justify why Wladimir Klitschko should not be allowed to fight for the WBC heavyweight title anyway.

                    You seem to go full ****** whenever it concerns Golovkin.

                    The fact that the WBC refuse to acknowledge the WBA champ Klitschko, and yet shamelessly laid out the red carpet for the WBA champ Golovkin, cannot be ignored by you today.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      No, you weren't consulted..... but you went ahead and decided to make 3 ****** excuses to justify why Wladimir Klitschko should not be allowed to fight for the WBC heavyweight title anyway.

                      You seem to go full ****** whenever it concerns Golovkin.

                      The fact that the WBC refuse to acknowledge the WBA champ Klitschko, and yet shamelessly laid out the red carpet for the WBA champ Golovkin, cannot be ignored by you today.
                      What 3 excuses?

                      I said that Povetkin wasn't Wilder's mando when he lost to Wlad, which is a fact.

                      Golovkin beat Rubio, who was the WBC interim belt holder, so that's why he became mando for Cotto, then Canelo.

                      Different situations see?

                      And don't bother throwing insults at me if you don't like the WBC rules, because I didn't make them.

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