Vid: Old Timer Joe "FBF" Cortez thought Cotto actually won, calls for Judges overhaul

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  • onetwopunch
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dinamita 03
    Fights are scored round by round as individual fights, not after the fight as a whole. It's perfectly plausible to have wide scorecards in a highly competitive fight when one guy is slightly edging each round. Every close fight isn't scored 7-5.

    The fight was scored correctly, a Canelo win. And how does fans scoring on Twitter scoring imply there was going to be bought judges?
    - When the HBO announcers said that on twitter they have Canelo pitching a shutout, That made me think about the judges, its media trying to sway the opinion of the masses. I wont get into that because thats a entirely different can of worms, like watching a fight without the volume vs watching the fight with sound, it can affect your opinion of what is going on. Yes I know how fights are scored..

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    • SeekDaGreat
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      #52
      Originally posted by PivotandRoll
      Joe Cortez is a man trying to sell a product who also most likely believes what he's saying...Tell me though, if Wlad had landed 1-2 flashy counter shots a round would he have deserved the decision since Fury was moving and didn't really throw anything of note? just saying....
      That could have easily EASILY been the difference in the Klit vs Fury fight. 1-2 beautiful hard counters and a few rounds swing the other way. So yes. Is the answer.

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      • jai mari078
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        #53
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        Didn't chavez & JMM said they thought Cotto won? & aren't they mexican?
        Yea but Marquez has ben hatin on Canelo for years, so his opinion mean nothing

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          #54
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          Yes, I think that is a fair card. As I said it was a very competitive fight. But fights are scored round by round. And this is an instance where a fair scorecard doesn't reflect how competitive that fight was.

          It wasn't really a back and forth fight, the fight was pretty much the same all the way. Very competitive, but with Cotto coming up just a hair short in almost every round. There are very few rounds where you can decisively say that was a Cotto round, as is evidenced by the fact that there was not a single round that Cotto won on the official scorecards that he won on all 3 scorecards.

          Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, and I am relatively indifferent towards Canelo, and believe he was quite soundly beaten by Lara. So I am not a biased Canelo fan, or a Cotto hater.

          I just score objectively. Feel free to watch the fight again, and you will see what I mean. Cotto was content to unload his combinations at Canelo's arms and gloves. Didn't really create openings as we are use to seeing, and never sat down on his punches enough to take the closer rounds where Canelo's heavier shots were the difference makers, or enough to take control of the pace in closer rounds were that would have been the difference maker.

          who wears short shorts!

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          • icha
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            #55
            Originally posted by PrBoxing88
            even the mexicans say caneko is a fraud and giving Cotto the victory hahaha they counted everything caneko threw even the one hitting just air, well they score a draw in the mayweather fight imagine lmao!!!!.
            did you already paid your bet??

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            • jypehob
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              #56
              This Joe Cortez?!

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #57
                Originally posted by PR ESQ.
                At the very least Cortez is bringing forth ideas to improve the vantage point of judges which we all know wo question needs to be revisited especially with the controversy surrounding the Cotto fight and numerous others...
                What controversy? Cotto got his azz kicked.

                Oh, my bad. You meant the controversy in the Margarito rematch. Yea, that was some comtroversial bs. Dr stopping the fight just as Cotto started losing steam.

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                • Agent Mulder
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Cotto didn't win a single clear round in the fight.
                  I gave him the 11th. Think he clearly took it. Other than that, miguel toto was weary of sitting down on his punches. Now he's just the newest clip on Canelos highlight reel.

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                    • PR ESQ.
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                      What controversy? Cotto got his azz kicked.

                      Oh, my bad. You meant the controversy in the Margarito rematch. Yea, that was some comtroversial bs. Dr stopping the fight just as Cotto started losing steam.
                      Blah blah...

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