Hatton-Kostya : Who has fought better opposition?

[DLT]

Floyd fought this guy when he was 8-0.. Jesus Chavez, 0-15..http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004761.

as for their resume's, lets take the top 8 opponents each has faced

you have Tszyu..
Sharmba Mitchell 55-3-0
Julio Cesar Chavez 104-4-2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 43-1-1
Oktay Urkal 28-0-0
Zab Judah 27-0-0
James Leija 43-5-2
Rafael Ruelas 52-3-0
Angel Hernandez 40-1-2 =392 wins

and then PBF.
Jose LuisCastillo 45-4
Jesus Chavez 35-1
Diego Corrales 33-0
Genaro Hernandez 38-1-1
Gregorio Vargas 40-6-1
Carlos Gerena 34-2-0
Phillip N'dou 31-1-0
Victor Sosa 35-2-2 =291 wins

This is so flawed and you know it. Anybody can have a good record but who did they beat and how old were they when you beat them and how much past there prime were they when you beat them

[SonnyJ]

kostya complied an amateur record of 259 wins 11 losses. won the world championships in sydney (1991) and came 3rd in Moscow. he also won in 1990 at the goodwill games in seatle, at the european championships in athens (1989) and Gothenburg (1991). He won the soviet championships in 1989, 1990 and 1991, and came second in 1988...and the list goes on

that's only his amateur record. he still currently holds a title, having boxed since the age of 9. He trains harder than most (probably all pro fighters) and has an incredible boxing brain.

don't get me wrong, i follow mayweather closely and i love his style. but tszyu has such a good record that he can't be overrated. in fact he is unbelievably underrated.

[DLT]

kostya complied an amateur record of 259 wins 11 losses. won the world championships in sydney (1991) and came 3rd in Moscow. he also won in 1990 at the goodwill games in seatle, at the european championships in athens (1989) and Gothenburg (1991). He won the soviet championships in 1989, 1990 and 1991, and came second in 1988...and the list goes on

that's only his amateur record. he still currently holds a title, having boxed since the age of 9. He trains harder than most (probably all pro fighters) and has an incredible boxing brain.

don't get me wrong, i follow mayweather closely and i love his style. but tszyu has such a good record that he can't be overrated. in fact he is unbelievably underrated.

Your speaking about his amature record and how good you think he is but the fact of the matter is he hasnt faced hardly any good fighters and he never moved up where the real comp was.

[SonnyJ]

alright, i had hoped i could convert you using only tszyu's amateur record but evidently it has not worked and i need to try further to convince you

[DLT]

alright, i had hoped i could convert you using only tszyu's amateur record but evidently it has not worked and i need to try further to convince you

I already know about his amateur career. He had one of the best in history but this is the pros now

[SonnyJ]

you do not think that tszyu has fought the best in the junior-welters throughout his entire career? he has fought former champions like jake rodriguez, roger mayweather, jan bergman, phillips, grove, ruelas, hurtado, gonzales, chavez, mitchell and judah.

tszyu's main goal has been to dominate the junior welters, and to be regarded as the best in the division of all time. it takes two to make a deal. and as far as i'm concerned, sweet pea, dlh, etc all had their chances to stick around and prove something against tszyu but never did.

[DLT]

you do not think that tszyu has fought the best in the junior-welters throughout his entire career? he has fought former champions like jake rodriguez, roger mayweather, jan bergman, phillips, grove, ruelas, hurtado, gonzales, chavez, mitchell and judah.

tszyu's main goal has been to dominate the junior welters, and to be regarded as the best in the division of all time. it takes two to make a deal. and as far as i'm concerned, sweet pea, dlh, etc all had their chances to stick around and prove something against tszyu but never did.

Come on now, Oscar and Sweet Pea had the name and the fame. Nobody even cared too much about Zoo then. He fought the best in the division but the division was so weak. Those guys you named were not good when he fought them except for Mitchell and Zab and name one good fighter who they have beaten. He also couldve been moved up and faced Oscar, Sweet Pea, Mosley, Tito, Forrest, Mayorga, and Margarito

[SonnyJ]

i think that jan bergman was an all round faster fighter than zab judah, his jabs were lightning quick and his hooks "kicked like a mule". Roger mayweather, Floyd's uncle and mentor was no bum either.

[SonnyJ]

to be quite honest with you, i don't rate mitchell or judah up there as his best opposition.

they're just the biggest names that were around then.

[DLT]

i think that jan bergman was an all round faster fighter than zab judah, his jabs were lightning quick and his hooks "kicked like a mule". Roger mayweather, Floyd's uncle and mentor was no bum either.

Who is Jan Bergman and Roger was old and had double digit losses