Hatton-Kostya : Who has fought better opposition?

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  • Slipx
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    Hatton-Kostya : Who has fought better opposition?

    Ricky has fought alot of bums. His first opponent was a guy named Kid McAuley. His record? 8-48-3. Kostya's first opponent? Darrell Hiles, 7-1-0.

    here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
    Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
    Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
    David Thompson 7-20-3..
    Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
    Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
    Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)

    When Hatton and Kostya get in the ring, Kostya will naturally have an experience advantage. This is because Kostya didn't knit pick his opponents, and went up against whoever challenged him.
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    While I agree that Tszyu has seen better opposition than Hatton I must remind you that records don't tell the whole story. A good example of this is Emanuel Augustus (A.K.A. Emanuel Burton) who is 30-24-6 but I would give a chance at beating anyone at 140 if he comes in prepared (as he's said he will from now on since he stopped smoking weed). He is a journeyman but a very tough opponent. Ask Alex Trujillo and Courtney Burton about that!

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    • barryboy
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      #3
      Originally posted by Slipx
      here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
      Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
      Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
      David Thompson 7-20-3..
      Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
      Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
      Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)
      3 out of the 4 top guys on that list are the type of guys that all the young prospects get tested against because they don't win much but at the same time they don't get beat easily either, very tricky and they go the distance on most occasions unless the guy has something so ain't that bad really.

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      • DLT
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        #4
        Originally posted by Slipx
        Ricky has fought alot of bums. His first opponent was a guy named Kid McAuley. His record? 8-48-3. Kostya's first opponent? Darrell Hiles, 7-1-0.

        here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
        Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
        Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
        David Thompson 7-20-3..
        Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
        Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
        Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)

        When Hatton and Kostya get in the ring, Kostya will naturally have an experience advantage. This is because Kostya didn't knit pick his opponents, and went up against whoever challenged him.
        Zoo's resume is better but it's not as great as you try to make it sound.

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          #5
          Originally posted by barryboy
          3 out of the 4 top guys on that list are the type of guys that all the young prospects get tested against because they don't win much but at the same time they don't get beat easily either, very tricky and they go the distance on most occasions unless the guy has something so ain't that bad really.
          Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

          Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
          Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

          sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Slipx
            Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

            Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
            Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

            sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.
            Don't get too bogged down with stats, it's obvious Tszyu has faced better opponents but he took the fast track to the top whereas Hatton has been a slow burner so I don't really read too much into that it's all about styles on the night

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              #7
              Originally posted by Slipx
              Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

              Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
              Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

              sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.
              Yes I see what you mean but Im speaking specificly about Zoo and his resume is way overated

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              • Slipx
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                #8
                Originally posted by barryboy
                Don't get too bogged down with stats, it's obvious Tszyu has faced better opponents but he took the fast track to the top whereas Hatton has been a slow burner so I don't really read too much into that it's all about styles on the night
                I always figured Hatton was the one on the fast track, since he began his pro career in '97. (Kostya '92)

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                • bonafuwa
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                  Obviously Tszyu has fought the much better opposition. I mean Judah, Mitchell (2ce), JCC etc. Hatton hasn't even come close. I still give him a chance on the 5th of June though!

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                  • Cletus Funk
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                    #10
                    You also need to appreciate that Hatton turned pro at 17 or 18 whilst Zoo stayed in the amatures well into his twentys, so Hatton did alot more of his learning in the pros.

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