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  • techliam
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    #31
    Originally posted by kiDynamite92
    No he isn't. There hasn't been an undisputed hw champion for 15 years.
    If you want to argue over definitions of a concept, sure

    Tyson Fury isnt the Undisputed Champion (notice the capital letter)

    But he is the undisputed World Heavyweight Champion

    Theres no dispute as to who the champion is

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #32
      Originally posted by Divine Hammer
      also lee sleby is pretty mediocre. british boxing has a lot of quantity but almost no quality.

      and wlad is complete shot and very old. fury will get demolished by povetkin.
      God told me you're going to hell.

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        #33
        Originally posted by NEETzsche
        yeah right. the #3 beats the #1 and somehow the #2 gets elevated without lifting a finger?
        Youd be in a minority ranking Wilder at no2

        Most people ranked Fury, Povetkin and Wlad ahead of him, and probably still do

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          #34
          Originally posted by Divine Hammer
          also lee sleby is pretty mediocre. british boxing has a lot of quantity but almost no quality.

          and wlad is complete shot and very old. fury will get demolished by povetkin.
          lmfao, you weren't saying that Wlad was shot last week, you said he was number 1 p4p. YDKSAB. Stay salty.

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            #35
            Originally posted by saint laurent
            Deontay's title is historically the most prestigious and lucrative in the entire sport.

            You can't possibly be the "undisputed" champion without the most highly recognized championship.

            If someone was a three belt champ, and the title they were missing was the WBO, I suppose you could make the case that they were "undisputed" as historically that term meant WBC/WBA/IBF champion.

            Although at this point, I do think someone would need to hold all four to be the "undisputed" champion as the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO all recognize each other in their rules now and it's pretty clear the sport recognizes all four now, even Japan finally caved on the IBF/WBO.

            Fury is the unified champion and should be very proud, but unfortunately for him, the belt he is missing is the most important one.
            Theres very few people who recognise the WBC as the most 'prestigious'

            Namely, a few mexicans, you and the WBC.

            The champion makes the belt. Therefore the the WBC belt at HW reflects a top 5 contender at HW. Welcome to the modern day sport of boxing.

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            • Dr Rumack
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              #36
              Originally posted by saint laurent
              Deontay's title is historically the most prestigious and lucrative in the entire sport.
              What on earth are you talking about? Do you even know what those words mean?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Red Cyclone

                He's so damn cringey.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NEETzsche
                  yeah right. the #3 beats the #1 and somehow the #2 gets elevated without lifting a finger?
                  Beyonce wasn't the real #2 anyway.

                  There's like 4-5 guys I'd pick to smack him.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by saint laurent
                    Being the undisputed champion means you have all of the recognized championships. Wladimir was never the undisputed champion. He won three of the four recognized titles, but was missing the most important one. Saying that he was the undisputed champion "to you" is like me saying that "to me," the sky is red. We are entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts. The word means what it means. You don't get to create your own definition.
                    "the most important one".

                    Ok whatever dude. Everyone knows Wladimir was THE champ. Deontay Wilder just fought for a belt that Stiverne had picked up.

                    It's like he's the champion of the second division. league two.

                    Actually, more like sunday league. but whatever. Tyson is the #1. He's the ring mag champ and universally recognized heavyweight champion.

                    Wilder is what he is. A title holder and a contender. Not a champion.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                      No he isn't. There hasn't been an undisputed hw champion for 15 years.
                      Yes there has. His name was Wlad.

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