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  • dr.french
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    #21
    Jr. has a point. Everyone wanted an action fight. This is one of the biggest fights of the year. And Cottos punches did not hurt Canelo, and Canelo looked big, strong and fast. Heavy punches.

    So why didn't Canelo try to finish him, or impose his will? One of the biggest fights of your life, and you just sit back and box, when it looks like you can ko him?

    It was very unsatisfying, indeed. Jr. is right.

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    • Cinci Champ
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      #22
      he has a point obviously no one will take anything he says serious because of his own problems inside and outside the ring but ill give him credit that he has a point

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      • alexander28
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        #23
        Canelo doesn't know how to pressure a fighter to get the knock down. Canelo still can improve his boxing skills.

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        • North Star
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          #24
          Funny enough, they really aren't too far away in weight. Well, at least in a few years for Canelo. He won't be making Caneloweight after another year. Canelo vs Chavez Jr. may materialize in another 2 years. That's if Junior doesn't make the jump to heavyweight in that time.

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          • PR ESQ.
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            #25
            Truth. Percolating. Morales.Barerra.

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            • lopetego
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              #26
              Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi

              -snip-

              He isn't the take on anyone warrior. He has taken on decent fighter, but almost everyone long past their prime (something they want to do to GGG too). The list is large, Angulo, Trout, Kirkland, Cotto, all past their best fighting days.

              Lara was a tough fight, but Lara could never hurt Canelo, and as we seen, you can't get decisions against him.
              rubbish, Trout was in his absolute prime and coming off his career's best w.

              Cotto was in his career's best shape, he moved and bounced more than ever and didn't gas in the later rounds like always does

              Cotto was also ¨rejuvenated and improved under Roach¨ if you believe the claims of Cotto fans from the last 2 years

              Canelo's not like Chavez jr, Canelo has work ethic and discipline, two qualities Jr never had
              Last edited by lopetego; 11-27-2015, 09:25 AM.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #27
                Originally posted by alexander28
                Canelo doesn't know how to pressure a fighter to get the knock down. Canelo still can improve his boxing skills.
                When people going to realize canelo is not a one dimensional come first slugger He doesn't need to walk through punches taking unnecessary abuse because he can only win if he knocks you out. If you stand and trade he can brawl and rearrange your face like angulo, or knock your lights out early like Kirkland. But he's also skilled enough that if you come in riding your bike scared to trade and get kod he can out box you, make you miss and counter and win rounds that way. Hes not a slugger like Provodnikov who will walk through and eat punches with his face because he has no other option to beat you. He has to take those shota to try and land his because he doesn't have the boxing skills Canelo does.

                I love how before the fight it went from no way he can beat cotto. To those same peole now saying OK he beat him but he didn't knick him out so I'm not impressed. lol If cotto sat on his punches and actually tried to win the fight he would of been knocked out. Canelo can win a fight many ways and is adapting right before our eyes. He takes what you give him, Slug with him he take your head off and finishes you try and run and he will outbox and counter you and win the fight that way on.

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                • JJRod
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                  Of course he didn't life up to it, they are trying o act as if Canelo is the second coming of Chevez Sr, when in reality he is the second coming of Chavez Jr. Hyped up Mexican boxer who drains tons of weight to fight smaller dudes, somehow gets gifted matches--at 23 he gets Floyd, it wasn't based off of skill, he got whooped.

                  Like Chavez, the large Mexican following affords him the ability to bring in PPV. But never quit living up to the hype.

                  Canelo isn't what his fans and the media want to pretend. They know it--he se the apprehensiveness of fighting at 154 where Lara, Andrade, and Charlos can beat him.

                  Or to go to his more natural weight of 160, where GGG bulldozes him.

                  He isn't the take on anyone warrior. He has taken on decent fighter, but almost everyone long past their prime (something they want to do to GGG too). The list is large, Angulo, Trout, Kirkland, Cotto, all past their best fighting days.

                  Lara was a tough fight, but Lara could never hurt Canelo, and as we seen, you can't get decisions against him.

                  This is why GGG is so dangerous to Canelo, because Ginger doesn't make it 12. Probably be lucky to make it 8.

                  So his only chance is to pretend he isn't a MW, who balloons up to 175 when fighting WW. This way he can try to drain GGG, because short of that, Canelo will be exposed as just another Chavez Jr.
                  Another idiot on here who likes to talk out of his arse.

                  Trout was in his prime, coming off a huge victory against Cotto. Many people didn't think Canelo was going to take the Trout fight, but of course after Canelo beats him, Trout is a bum right?
                  Also Cotto was suppose to be the new Cotto. The revitalized Cotto who with Freddie Roach had KO'd three opponents in a row. But now that Canelo beats him he wasn't dangerous.

                  And I love the he drains fighters quote. He fights them above the 154 limit, but he weight drains them?

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                  • batista84
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrrod02
                    Another idiot on here who likes to talk out of his arse.

                    Trout was in his prime, coming off a huge victory against Cotto. Many people didn't think Canelo was going to take the Trout fight, but of course after Canelo beats him, Trout is a bum right?
                    Also Cotto was suppose to be the new Cotto. The revitalized Cotto who with Freddie Roach had KO'd three opponents in a row. But now that Canelo beats him he wasn't dangerous.

                    And I love the he drains fighters quote. He fights them above the 154 limit, but he weight drains them?
                    That dude is a hater, no one takes him seriously because all he do is hate.

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                    • texasboi15
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                      #30
                      Julio Jr is right

                      But Canelo is not alone. Both he and Cotto together were a disservice to the whole Mexico Puerto Rico rivalry

                      Country Pride War Blood and Guts..?!

                      Negative.

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