this is why boxing is a dying sport....

[-PBP-]

CJ Ross probably has better judging accuracy than CompuBox.

[!! Shawn]

That is what I was hoping for pbc to become, an alternative to the boxing status quo

Even if pbc didn't have all the top fighters, they had enough to have their own organzoation with its own belts, similar to bellator..

Pbc just needs to be standardized:
20x20 rings
No catchweights
Making champs defend vs top contenders just like how they do in mma


Sadly, pbc is more of the same instead of something different, and really is no alternative.

PBC has spread fights out all over the place so nobody watches them anymore. I only really catch fights on HBO or Shotime, because of stuff like wtf... Lara fighting on a WED?

[Amazinger]

It's been dying since the 70"s...

[Scott9945]

they're still planting seeds. PBC can become what you described, but it's going to take years. they need to accumulate a higher percentage of the top fighters and a higher percentage of the belts.

right now they are just consolidating power. locking up fighters, belts and TV dates.

the end game is still years away.

At the rate they are losing money, the end game may be a lot sooner than that.

[Scott9945]

They paid up front for years of TV. That is a fixed cost they won't have to pay again.

Haymon's investors, from day one. were prepared to lose the entire 500 million and invest more if needed.

They're trying to create a multibillion dollar entity and take over the sport. It's going to take a lot of time and a lot of money.

But if you don't think PBC will still exist a few years from now, you'll be pleasantly surprised (or I guess upset?), because whether PBC is ultimately a success or not, they wouldn't have even started if they weren't willing to see things through to the end of the initial 5 year plan.

If it appears that they are losing ground rather than gaining it, they may pull the plug earlier than they said they would. That's a lot of money and ultimately business people tend to behave like business people.

[Eff Pandas]

Dying sport lol. That is such an old (I've been hearing it since I've been watching the sport when Mike Tyson was champion) & ****ty analogy (idek how a sport can die, literally or figuratively, nowadays, I see mfers sword fighting in a ring on Youtube, if mfers still sword fighting I think boxing is fine).

And not that I don't agree with what you are saying as far as how to make boxing better (minus the compubox thing which is an awful idea) cuz the sport isn't as well received as it could be if random people on the street could name 4 or 5 of the 17 champions (under a 1 champ per divisons universe) off the top of their head, but the sport if far from dying.

[Eff Pandas]

PBC is our only hope.

No its not. Well I guess right now it is, but the reality is someone will create a elite boxing league sooner or later. If its PBC, that AIBA guy, or some Mark Cuban type rich mfer someone eventually will see the money to be made with elite boxing under a centralized power structure & the sport will be open for the taking more & more as things continue to be more niche, making it easier & easier that someone bold & with money will "take over" the sport. Its just a matter of who does it.

PBC might have come too early I'd argue, but the person who comes next (or next after the next guy), & someone will, will have the added advantage of the sport likely being more spread out than it is now & with the knowledge of the mistakes PBC made. Bottom line its beyond obvious all the best boxers need to be under the same umbrella so the best can fight the best at any time & without so much ****** drama & gamemanship. I think this has been assumed to be common sense by most other sports, but boxing has never been mistaken for the sport of smart mfers.

[Scott9945]

And when you want to take over a big business, sometimes you go into it knowing you're going to lose a billion dollars. There haven't been any unanticipated losses. They have a long term plan. They have no issue blowing the 500 million, or even more, to get the thing rolling. They've paid up front for years of TV. Technically it is Haymon's management company that is being funded here, PBC is just the name of a TV series from a legal perspective. Haymon is the most successful manager in boxing, you really think his management company is going to go bankrupt in the next few years?

No matter how much money and time you put into a business, it doesn't guarantee success. If the trend goes to worse rather than better, they will pull the plug.

Haymon won't go broke. He's making money from both sides of this deal. But the hedge fund could definitely fold or pull out. There aren't that many years of paid for TV time left,

[DeadLikeMe]

No matter how much money and time you put into a business, it doesn't guarantee success. If the trend goes to worse rather than better, they will pull the plug.

Haymon won't go broke. He's making money from both sides of this deal. But the hedge fund could definitely fold or pull out. There aren't that many years of paid for TV time left,

That's the thing though, there's nowhere near enough of a sample size to determine that. Furthermore, like half the dissent and cries of failure on here are coming from people halfway across the world who can't even afford their own internet connections (well outside of PBC's target market).

[daggum]

kevin bizier vs fredrick lawson was a main event fight. lara vs delvin rodriguez was a main event fight. this is why boxing is dying. no one should or would want to watch that. sure there are good fights every once in a while but who is going to waste their time waiting for that? over saturated the market with pure garbage. if you look at other sports they try to make the nationally televised games the ones people want to watch with the best and most exciting teams. they don't put the browns vs the jaguars on very often yet pbc thinks that's going to be a big hit? why would they think that? 2 unknown boring guys=success? oh the problem is that people aren't getting a chance to see unknown boring guys enough so lets put more of it on!