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  • #71
    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
    Other than Pacman (at a catchweight above 147) I don't see something to really make sense regarding Cotto... Bradley, maybe -- but I don't see Bradley taking such a fight.
    You can scratch Pacman off the list because they have the same trainer. And Roach will never leave Pacman to train Cotto. Arum has been talking a bunch of names for Bradley the one name you haven't heard is Cotto. The way Cotto left Top Rank was messy and Arumn hasn't mentioned any of his fighters for Cotto since there breakup. He mentioned Canelo as a fight for Bradley and Pacman. Never Cotto.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
      dude he threw over 100 jabs alone!!! get off that oh he threw more bs cuz ya was saying the exact opposite for the garcia/herrera fight.
      What are you talking about. Herrera outlanded Danny by overal punches and had a higher connect rate. And tripled the amount of jabs landed at a connect rate of 33%. None of which you can say for Cotto. How does that apply to what happened to Cotto. Look at the punch stats

      Cotto v Canelo

      629 Total punches thrown 484
      129 Total punches connected 155
      21% Percentage 32%

      374 Total jabs thrown 186
      54 Total jabs connected 37
      14% Percentage 20%

      255 Total power punches thrown 298
      75 Total power punches connected 118
      14% Percentage 40%

      Literally nothing is the same as the Danny vs Herrera fight. Only thing is the same is both Herrerra and Cotto threw a ton of jabs. Difference is Herrerra actually connected. You don't get credit for throwing a ton of punches but miss 500 of the ones you throw. Canelo slipped his punches. Danny blocked Herreras punches with his face. Herrera landed 139 jabs alone. Cotto landed just 54 despite throwing almost 400 of them. How you expect to win a fight with your jab when you land that few at a 14% rate? lol

      His jab was ineffective because of Canelo's defense and countering. And he was killed in the power punch department because he was scared to trade with Canelo for fear of being knocked out.
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 11-25-2015, 10:43 AM.

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      • #73
        His place in the HOF is secure and has a "Reserved" sign on it. Let the others fight for a chance of earning one of those.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          What are you talking about. Herrera outlanded Danny by overal punches and had a higher connect rate. And tripled the amount of jabs landed at a connect rate of 33%. None of which you can say for Cotto. How does that apply to what happened to Cotto. Look at the punch stats

          Cotto v Canelo

          629 Total punches thrown 484
          129 Total punches connected 155
          21% Percentage 32%

          374 Total jabs thrown 186
          54 Total jabs connected 37
          14% Percentage 20%

          255 Total power punches thrown 298
          75 Total power punches connected 118
          14% Percentage 40%

          Literally nothing is the same as the Danny vs Herrera fight. Only thing is the same is both Herrerra and Cotto threw a ton of jabs. Difference is Herrerra actually connected. You don't get credit for throwing a ton of punches but miss 500 of the ones you throw. Canelo slipped his punches. Danny blocked Herreras punches with his face. Herrera landed 139 jabs alone. Cotto landed just 54 despite throwing almost 400 of them. How you expect to win a fight with your jab when you land that few at a 14% rate? lol

          His jab was ineffective because of Canelo's defense and countering. And he was killed in the power punch department because he was scared to trade with Canelo for fear of being knocked out.
          thats all herrera did was outjab danny & pretty much everyone screamed robbery... even though DSG had over 100 more landed power punches if I remember correctly compared to herrera 100 jabs landed.

          all in all, 26 total punches landed is the difference and thats comes out to a close fight.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
            thats all herrera did was outjab danny & pretty much everyone screamed robbery... even though DSG had over 100 more landed power punches if I remember correctly compared to herrera 100 jabs landed.

            all in all, 26 total punches landed is the difference and thats comes out to a close fight.
            Again what does Herrera fight have to do with cotto? Herrera landed more punches and had a massive advantage in jabs landed. Cotto didn't. He didn't dominate any punch stats like Herrera did. Both threw jabs one guy landed it all night on dannys face so that's why many gave rounds to Herrera. Cotto was ineffective missing his jabs so that's why nobody gave him rounds. Really you sound foolish these two fights weren't similar and the punch stats from both fights reflect that. Herrera landed more at a higher rate and landed 3x the amount of jabs on dannys face. Cotto landed fewer shot despite missing 500 punches for a much lower connect rate and got killed in the power punches. So his jab was taken away by canelos defense and counter punching. Danny had no clue what to do with Herrera jab so he ate them with his face. Dannys fight was at least close because he had an edge in power shots something cotto didn't which is why many had it so wide for canelo lol
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 11-25-2015, 11:32 AM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              Again what does Herrera fight have to do with cotto? Herrera landed more punches and had a massive advantage in jabs landed. Cotto didn't. He didn't dominate any punch stats like Herrera did. Both threw jabs one guy landed it all night on dannys face so that's why many gave rounds to Herrera. Cotto was ineffective missing his jabs so that's why nobody gave him rounds. Really you sound foolish these two fights weren't similar and the punch stats from both fights reflect that. Herrera landed more at a higher rate and landed 3x the amount of jabs on dannys face. Cotto landed fewer shot despite missing 500 punches for a much lower connect rate and got killed in the power punches. So his jab was taken away by canelos defense and counter punching. Danny had no clue what to do with Herrera jab so he ate them with his face. Dannys fight was at least close because he had an edge in power shots something cotto didn't which is why many had it so wide for canelo lol


              yup according to you the fight wasn't close. It was a white wash..... & then you realized it was 26 total punches in difference.

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              • #77
                Miguel Cotto has no honor. He agreed to pay Golovkin $800k to step aside, yet reneged. Then he refused to pay the sanctioning fee of $300k for HIS championship fight against Canelo! Now he's saying that he won the fight with Canelo, which is clearly untrue. I was pulling for Cotto when he fought Margarito the second time, and was glad he won. Since then and especially recently, I find myself disliking this man very much.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by PETUFF View Post
                  Cotto won that fight or a draw thats how i see it!!!!!!!when i see the decision i was pissed!!that fight was a draw!
                  Anothing crying whining Mojoncito!

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                  • #79
                    Garcia v Herrera

                    675 Total punches thrown 695
                    204 Total punches connected 221
                    30% Percentage 32%

                    273 Total jabs thrown 419
                    54 Total jabs connected 139
                    20% Percentage 33%

                    402 Total power punches thrown 276
                    150 Total power punches connected 82
                    37% Percentage 30%

                    Again not sure why you comparing this fight to Cotto. If you gave the fight to Herrera you did because he controlled the action landed more punches and totally abused Danny with his jab. Danny had not clue what to do with that punch and ate it all night. Cotto threw a lot but had his jab taken away by Canelo's defense landed few at a horrible connect rate. And got dominated by the power punches because he was scared to sit down on his shots for fear of being KO'd. These fights have nothing in common. Except that both guys who people thought lost were puerto rican.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post


                      yup according to you the fight wasn't close. It was a white wash..... & then you realized it was 26 total punches in difference.
                      Again when you throw about 150 more punches you shouildn't be out landed AT ALL. you keep ignoring that part lol And the power punch stats that are one sided. Face it Cotto literally did nothing well. He tried to outbox Canelo but couldn't. Canelo's defense and counter punching foiled that. And he refused to try and trade with him for fear of getting KO'd and stayed on his bike round after round as he was ineffective and losing rounds. All Cotto did well is not get himself KO'd. But you don't win rounds or fights by missing 500 shots and riding your bike all night doing no damage and getting out landed at a higher connect rate.
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 11-25-2015, 12:03 PM.

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