Comments Thread For: Adonis Stevenson's Promoter Reacts To Ring's Decision

[HeroBando]

HBO had the right of first refusal. Stevenson wasn't running from anything. All HBO had to do was match Showtime's offer and Stevenson vs Kovalev would have been made.

I'm not a part of team anything. I don't even like boxing. I'm just explaining the business realities to you.

HBO is not gonna be nickel and dimed over a tuneup against a guy straight off ESPN. That's why they kicked Haymon out in the first place. Regardless, they'd pay him well to fight Kov on their network, the offer stands

[OnePunch]

HBO had the right of first refusal. Stevenson wasn't running from anything. All HBO had to do was match Showtime's offer and Stevenson vs Kovalev would have been made.

I'm not a part of team anything. I don't even like boxing. I'm just explaining the business realities to you.

yet you spent most of the day here posting, and arguing boxing minutiae.

Interesting use of your time.

[OnePunch]

HBO is not gonna be nickel and dimed over a tuneup against a guy straight off ESPN. That's why they kicked Haymon out in the first place. Regardless, they'd pay him well to fight Kov on their network, the offer stands

He doesnt understand that Showtimes "offer" was only for the one tuneup fight, and NO GUARANTEE Stevenson would face Kovalev next.

HBO didnt fall for the okey-doke and match that nonsense.......

[Kenchiro]

I'm defending Stevenson because the HBO propaganda machine has convinced some of you to believe in an alternate universe.

Kovalev's team went to the WBC convention and petitioned to become the WBC mandatory with a 50/50 purse bid. Stevenson accepted. Kovalev backed out.

You can say until you're blue in the face that Kovalev had an HBO contract and couldn't accept the fight, but Kovalev was actually a free agent after the Pascal fight and COULD accept the fight. Instead, he chose to sign another HBO contract.

I'm not knocking him. If it was the right business move, good for him.

But you can't blatantly duck a fighter and then claim the guy you ducked is the real ducker.

Unfortunately, most boxing fans aren't very intelligent, are very emotional, and therefore, great targets for manipulation and propaganda. It's absolutely hilarious that the side that backed out of the purse bid in your eyes is the side that was being ducked.

It's absolutely ridiculous.

This is why Haymon doesn't waste time dealing with fans or the media. The boxing nerds are a tiny percentage of the sports audience and have no sense of reality.

First off, you're still defending a guy whos holding the belt hostage because he hasn't fought any top 5 opp in the last two years...Show me proof...

Kovalev has fought B-hop, Pascal and Mohammedi...

Do you know HBO was backing Krusher and Main Event throughout Krusher's US run??...He's not going to back out from that when he made it big time...And still you haven't gotten back to me why Pieceofsht ran across when he was with HBO and can make the fight...Regardless Main Event offered that other guy to fight with Krusher 50/50 on HBO...Krusher isnt going to the purse bid cuz he's not going to be a pawn on PBC or Hymen's marketing tool...

[bigdunny1]

He has fought weak competition.
The odds on the Fonfara fight was -2000, I remember. He almost got beat, never rematched. Fought Bika and 2 other bums. Joke of a fighter.
He could have fought someone. No Bhop, Pascal or Kov, he is a joke.
He just got pimp slapped.

It's really this simple. Stevenson level of competition has fallen off ever since he signed with haymon and was advised to back out the Kovalev deal. He didn't meet ring or any real boxing fans standards for competition since. Everything else is just smoke screens to avoid that simple truth. This idiot is trying to muddy the waters with bs conspiracy theories and blaming everyone but Stevenson and his management for the fights they are making that make him look like a clown. Worse than Stevenson are idiots who try to defend him at this point.

[Sancho Puncho]

If only Haymon managed to buy GBP with its Ring magazine, he would`ve already cut ties with any other accrediting bodies in favor of the Ring belt, fully owned by his promotion company.

[Weebler I]

I'm defending Stevenson because the HBO propaganda machine has convinced some of you to believe in an alternate universe.

Kovalev's team went to the WBC convention and petitioned to become the WBC mandatory with a 50/50 purse bid. Stevenson accepted. Kovalev backed out.

You can say until you're blue in the face that Kovalev had an HBO contract and couldn't accept the fight, but Kovalev was actually a free agent after the Pascal fight and COULD accept the fight. Instead, he chose to sign another HBO contract.

This isn't true though, HBO had "matching rights" on Kovalev's next fight which always going to be a mandatory bout having delayed the mandatory by over a year, and delayed prior to that by Hopkins.

Haymon knew this and had GYM had the purse-bid moved forward - when have you ever heard a purse bid for fight with another fight slated to take place first?

Duva has pointed this out numerous times, but Haymon fanboys refuse to acknowledge it:

As you are aware, Sergey’s deal with HBO mirrored the one that was offered to Stevenson, last year. Therefore, you are also aware that at the end of that deal, HBO possessed a matching right that was triggered when you arranged for a purse bid to be called prior to the consummation of Sergey’s IBF mandatory. Had you waited for the natural course of events to unfold , we might be having a very different discussion.

Most recently, Interbox & Main Events tried to put a deal together for Stevenson to fight Pascal, with the winner to fight Kovalev. This was vetoed by Stevenson.

On top of that Stevenson jumped ship when it was time to fight Kovalev on HBO, and continues to fight low-level challengers and will continue to do so until a sanctioning body forces him in another direction.

Since this is what you defend, it makes complete sense when you say that you don't like boxing.

[Chaos]

Good he the biggest duck in boxing with ggg right behind him atleast ggg would fight anyone else bwside ward

Who did GGG duck at 160?

[robbyheartbaby]

If Stevenson's team has done all they can to avoid Kovalev, why did they agree to fight Kovalev?

Kovalev is the one that declined to fight Stevenson.

An inconvenient truth . . .

Why is it BS that the purse bid would have been one by the side willing to pay the most?

You forget HBO had right of first refusal on Stevenson and let him walk rather than matching Showtime's offer. HBO could have matched Showtime's offer and Stevenson would have fought Kovalev.

Hmm but weren't they signed to fight each other before Stevesnon signed with Haymon? HBO would not let Kovalev fight on another network and Stevenson won't fight on HBO. It's boxing politics but still Stevenson walked away from the Kovalev fight when he signed with Haymon.

[TheThirdEye]

First off, you're still defending a guy whos holding the belt hostage because he hasn't fought any top 5 opp in the last two years...Show me proof...

Kovalev has fought B-hop, Pascal and Mohammedi...

Do you know HBO was backing Krusher and Main Event throughout Krusher's US run??...He's not going to back out from that when he made it big time...And still you haven't gotten back to me why Pieceofsht ran across when he was with HBO and can make the fight...Regardless Main Event offered that other guy to fight with Krusher 50/50 on HBO...Krusher isnt going to the purse bid cuz he's not going to be a pawn on PBC or Hymen's marketing tool...

I guess you know Hopkins is also a promoter, which will lie for the benefits of his company.

Hopkins invited Stevenson to join Showtime in march 2014, to unify 3 major belts (IBF, WBA and WBC). Showtime put millions on the table to get Stevenson, while he and Kovalev had no contract with HBO. So after HBO failed to match Showtime financial offer, Stevenson changed network.
But 10 days after B-Hop won his second title against Shumenov, on 04/29/2014 Mama Duva decided to sued Showtime, Golden Boy & Al Haymon, which have no business with this non sign contract issue.
Kathy Duva created her lawsuit scam, to plot a settlement under table with Golden Boy for dropping this phony lawsuit in exchange of an unification bout between Hopkins and her protege Kovalev, and thus make Stevenson-Michel-Haymon stumble in the process.
Which is the reason why this Lawsuit got dropped the day after Hopkins and Kovalev reached an agreement to unify their titles. Golden Boy team weren't bright enough to realise this lawsuit was going nowhere, otherwise HBO would have backed up this phony complaint. But Golden Boy have taken the bait, due to the fact they also needed an excuse to reconnect with HBO.
That's why the Stevenson and B-hop fight never happen, Hopkins left...

And about Jean Pascal, he fueled a depreciation campaign against Stevenson using all forms of media at its disposal to force Stevenson to give up to accept a equally split purse, when he was valued at 30% by the WBC. While Stevenson was waiting for the WBC purse split 70-30, Pascal find a 60-40 deal with Kovalev and moved out of his WBC 1st position. Not to mention, to avoid losing the high value the WBC Diamond belt brought him when he left the Yvon Michel organization for Interbox; He, Greg Leon and Kathy Duva build up a plan to convince the WBC of positioning the winner between him and Kovalev mandatory to Stevenson. Which is how he avoided to get stripped from that WBC Diamond belt.

Anyhow, for team Duva it was just a commercial prank used to enhance the market value of Kovalev with HBO, as you noticed Kove team rejected the 2 purse bid the WBC ordered following their previous agreement. The first rejection was made when Kovalev had no contract, and the second denial was done when Kovalev was under a new contract with HBO.
Besides these "IN ADVANCE" excuses, it's a shame to witness how team Kove are preparing boxing fans to accept their 3rd obvious duck.
It's not a coincidence you see it coming too, Kovalev is fake...

It only takes 1 clean left, ONE