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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #211
    Originally posted by NEETzsche
    canelo is in golovkin's division and therefore has to fight golovkin. golovkin is not in ward's division so it's his prerogative to decide when/whether he wants to move up. it's not hard to understand mate
    Canelo doesn't have to fight anyone, same way Golovkin didn't have to fight Ward, you can't force them to fight.

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      #212
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Well, where were you when GGG's fans were doing that? Why didn't you criticize them when they were playing this game with Andre Ward?

      I think that's the whole point. Certain posters excuse anything Golovkin does and keep shifting their standards to accommodate his actions. While giving other boxers crap constantly when they do the same thing.
      Those same people crapping on GGG were screaming at him for being a coward for not fighting Ward here and now, ignoring the fact that Ward barely came back and had his first bout at 172. I don't care if he was talking about fighting JCC jr., Froch, or Mayweather Jr. None of those fights ever happened. Do I give Bradley **** for calling out GGG when he obviously would never fight him? No. Boxers talk **** and say **** all the time (or their promotion team does anyways). Those people hating on GGG for things like that, things other people say, they're just trying to find an excuse to vilify Golovkin because they have something against him (whether due to race, or whatever).

      Golovkin had a title fight with Lemieux setup, and potentially had a chance at the winner of Canelo/Cotto. It makes no sense to move up and fight Ward who had his opening fight back at a division weight limit of 172, a guy who had been out of the limelight for too long. Boxing fans need to be realistic, that's a fight that hasn't even saturated in the public. The PPV buys for a fight like that would probably be at MOST 300,000.



      Again, a Golovkin vs Ward fight shouldn't even be talked about until early 2017. Canelo in May 2016, Lee/Saunders winner in the fall (Saunders would definitely fight GGG, if Golovkin beats Canelo), and the move up to 168 early 2017. That also gives time for Ward to take some heads and get the hype rolling.

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        #213
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        Canelo doesn't have to fight anyone, same way Golovkin didn't have to fight Ward, you can't force them to fight.
        WBC says Canelo does.

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          #214
          Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
          List 20 fights from this year that had catchweights with 2 guys in the same division. You said it happens all the time. Lets see your proof.
          Read what i just wrote: it does not matter. I didnt phrase it righr.

          Whether there has been 0 or 100 means **** to Canelo when he asks GGG to lose a few.

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            #215
            Originally posted by JaguaresMx
            Read what i just wrote: it does not matter. I didnt phrase it righr.

            Whether there has been 0 or 100 means **** to Canelo when he asks GGG to lose a few.
            It does matter. You just said it happens all the time. Prove it.

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              #216
              Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
              Lets be real, GGG just isn't black enough for you.
              I am a fan of fighters from all different races. Check my post history if you need proof.

              But since you brought it up let's be real. Andre Ward doesn't have the right skin color for some of the posters here, that's why we have all these double standards becoming quite evident now.

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                #217
                Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                WBC says Canelo does.
                Then he will drop it.

                Canelo doesn t care about the belt.

                Youre naive enough to think that GGG cares about the belt? He cares about fighting an A side to become one. Belt or not, he wants the fight

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by JaguaresMx
                  Youre not still not getting what I am saying. It doesnt matter. I was not arguing from precedent, but meant that ****ty boxing politics can make anything happen.There is no principle to this.

                  We just saw Cotto and canelo fight for the MW title at 155. That just happened.

                  When GGG negotiates, lets see how much weight your question carries. Zero.

                  The bottom line is that if GGG wants it, he must chase. Thats it. Its on him
                  I asked already, but no one answered. Isn't he the mandatory, why would he have to negotiate? Isn't that something reserved for voluntary defenses?

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                    WBC says Canelo does.
                    WBC can't force anything, they can strip him if he doesn't (unlikely the WBC loves Canelo) but then Little G still doesn't get his big fight, just another vacant title.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                      It does matter. You just said it happens all the time. Prove it.
                      Youre not reading.

                      I said that I didnt phrase it right. That kind of CW doesnt happen often. You are right. I was wrong to put it like that. My response is that it does not matter if it has happened once or 100 times. That argument means **** to boxing politics.

                      You just saw cotto and canelo agree to one.

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