How Many PPV Buys Will Cotto-Canelo Do?

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  • OnePunch
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You sure, or is this another miss click?
    I had to click on 750k, as there was no choice that fit my pick.

    But im sure if it only does 675k, you'll be right here to remind me that I clicked on 750k in the poll.

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    • techliam
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      You gotta stop blaming that fight dude. If this fight doesn't sell its because those involved haven't sold it. We hear more about Floyd and Mexico v PR than canelo and cotto.

      Too much mentioning Floyd v Manny in this promotion for this fight. Too much odh talking about Floyd. Too much espn referencing Floyd v Manny as well.

      I think people will watch if they feel a connection to the fighters. The main selling point seems to be Mexico v PR. You think that's the best way to sell this fight.
      Its the first major PPV since the big fight, so its only natural to refer back, at least for a speculative guess on the PPV success. But I agree theres other factors more important, as its not the non-boxing fans that will be paying for this PPV imo... hence my guess of around 600k. I would personally find it shocking if this fight broke 1m buys, but I hope it does, and I hope you are right that people have forgotten about last May (or the disappointment of)

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        #53
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        I had to click on 750k, as there was no choice that fit my pick.

        But im sure if it only does 675k, you'll be right here to remind me that I clicked on 750k in the poll.
        Only if you try and pull the BS you did when GGG came in low, which I don't expect you to do this time.

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        • 285Kid
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          #54
          700K - 950K , Under 1 million casual are still mad at #MayPac

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          • OnePunch
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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Only if you try and pull the BS you did when GGG came in low, which I don't expect you to do this time.
            my GGG pick was always 225k-250k in every thread i commented on.

            or maybe as low as 200k or as high as 275k depending on what mood I was in. I dont get paid to analyze ppv returns so I simply offer my opinion at the moment, which may change a little.

            tomorrow morning I might think 800k for cotto-canelo. Or maybe 600k

            who knows......lol
            Last edited by OnePunch; 11-20-2015, 08:01 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by techliam
              Its the first major PPV since the big fight, so its only natural to refer back, at least for a speculative guess on the PPV success. But I agree theres other factors more important, as its not the non-boxing fans that will be paying for this PPV imo... hence my guess of around 600k. I would personally find it shocking if this fight broke 1m buys, but I hope it does, and I hope you are right that people have forgotten about last May (or the disappointment of)
              The problem with continually mentioning Floyd v Manny is you don't know why people were truly dissatisfied. I know the powers that be at espn want to spread blame around, but the reality is most people blame one fighter. Selling this fight should be about the fighters, not what happened in May because to many people ( the majority) one guy didn't show up.

              I think if you keep bringing up May, that's all people will think about, which might make them not buy. It's November, that's where fans focus needs to be.

              It's like they are saying "buy this if you hated the boring may fight". Well what if you didn't hate the may fight, then why buy?

              Terrible promoting job. Cotto and canelo deserve better.

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              • mathed
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                #57
                Guessing 500K buys. Pac-May ruined the PPV model.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by 285Kid
                  700K - 950K , Under 1 million casual are still mad at #MayPac
                  How do you know this, because espn is saying it? I'm asking you seriously because this seems to be an excuse for what has been a horrible promotion.

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                  • techliam
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    The problem with continually mentioning Floyd v Manny is you don't know why people were truly dissatisfied. I know the powers that be at espn want to spread blame around, but the reality is most people blame one fighter. Selling this fight should be about the fighters, not what happened in May because to many people ( the majority) one guy didn't show up.

                    I think if you keep bringing up May, that's all people will think about, which might make them not buy. It's November, that's where fans focus needs to be.

                    It's like they are saying "buy this if you hated the boring may fight". Well what if you didn't hate the may fight, then why buy?

                    Terrible promoting job. Cotto and canelo deserve better.
                    Well a lot of people did blame one fighter, whoever that was doesnt matter. I didn't have to read espn for me to link back to May-Pac, I saw May-Berto do pretty badly for Floyd too so I simply speculated it has turned alot of fans off buying PPV - whatever side of the coin you prefer. This may have been the case for Golovkin too, but I honestly don't see how his matchup was ever going to be a success, when he isn't really a big star and his opponent shouldnt be anywhere near PPV.

                    This fight could have been promoted a lot differently (and a lot better), but I think it was always going to be compared to May-Pac. I dont think enough time has passed yet for the disappointment of it to fade, especially with the impact it had. I recognise this is just my own speculation, and respect the other factors you've placed importance on.... and i'll keep repeating that I hope i'm wrong.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #60
                      600K I think

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