Comments Thread For: Cotto Saw Golovkin's WBC Spot as Financially Motivated

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  • bigjavi973
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    #51
    Cotto is absolutely right. WBC goes against their own rules... lil'g groupies have no issue with it.

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    • The Collector
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sorrow
      That would make no sense he isn't only the Mandatory he is the interim champion that means if the Champion vacate's or is stripped of his belt the Interim is automatically upgraded to full champion,Obviously there is a lot of politics going around but by the ruling Alvarez shouldn't be able to fight for the belt now that Cotto has been stripped.
      ^^^ Exactly, and here the WBC bend their rules again. Canelo, should not be paying sanctioning fees for this fight, cause the moment Cotto got strpped by WBC rules the interim champion is promoted to full champion, which in this case is GGG. But the WBC wants Canelo's money and is screwing GGG even more, cause other that GGG agreeing to Canelo's catchweight demand, the fight wont happen.

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      • NEETzsche
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        #53
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        Cotto is absolutely right. WBC goes against their own rules... lil'g groupies have no issue with it.
        so you are complaining that the WBC pushed for a quality unification fight between the #1 and #2? they actually tried to do something positive for once and cotto wriggled out of it

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #54
          Originally posted by saint laurent
          Article 1.1 states their rules shall apply unless a written modification or an exception is issued by the WBC in its sole discretion on a case-by-case basis. The WBC has sole authority and discretion to interpret the rules.

          Aka, the WBC can do whatever it wants.

          Article 1.2 states as special and unique circumstances arise, the WBC president, in consultation with the board of governors, has full power and authority to interpret the rules and apply rulings in his sole discretion if deemed to be in the best interest of boxing.

          Aka, the WBC can do whatever it wants.

          Article 3.8 states the WBC has the authority, in its sole discretion, to approve variations from any applicable WBC rule, championship rule, policy or practice.

          Aka, the WBC can do whatever it wants.

          There is absolutely nothing in the current WBC rules that says Golovkin can't be interim champion.

          Aka, you're wrong.
          Actually there is plenty in the current rules that says that. Smh. Now if they choose to ignore their own rules then that's different. But according to the current rules it's exactly as Cotto said.

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          • Unseen
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ray*
            This is the exact same thing that said, How was GGG made a mandatory for the WBC belt when he is a champion with another organisation. Nobody was able to answer me that apart from the "He beat Rubio for the interim belt"....... I have never seen this happen before, where a champion of another organisation is made a mandatory of another organisation, if that isnt corruption then i dont know what it is then.
            Er of course it's financial. You beat Delvin Rodriguez and then you can get the WBC title from Martinez? He got the title for the same reasons...

            Cotto trying to chat **** but man is a Diva

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            • Mike_R
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              #56
              What a mess. The sanctioning bodies and stalwart stubborn promoters are the reason boxing is a laughingstock to casual sports fans.

              I understand Cotto's position, and I also think it's pretty crystal clear that this will be his last mega fight unless Floyd comes out of retirement for a rematch. I think if there's no Floyd rematch then Cotto is just about done/totally over it. I don't blame him if that's the case, he's done enough to relax and call it a career win or lose this weekend.

              If Canelo wins then hopefully he's on the warpath to face GGG.

              GGG vs. Cotto is 95% not going to happen.

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              • SilverMiles
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                #57
                If you don't think Cotto has to pay the $800,000 he already agreeded to pay, you have no intelligence.

                If you're against GGG getting his rightful title shot and say he should even be a mandatory after years of bytcing about champions unifying, you have no integrity.

                Fuqing fake ass boxing fans.

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                • Eastcoast
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  Cotto is absolutely right. WBC goes against their own rules... lil'g groupies have no issue with it.
                  WBC has a rule about fighting mandatories - Cotto didn't like it. No one forced Cotto to pay a step-aside fee, he could've just fought his mandatory.

                  Could've fought Golovkin instead of Geale, but he only wanted to pretend to be the MW champion.

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                  • Sorrow
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by djt117
                    The WBC under Mauricio Sulaiman (who I feel, has been very fan-friendly in his tenure) has been ranking rival organizations champions in special cases where, in the WBC's view, there is widespread public mandate for a fight which would create an 3-belt world champion or an undisputed (4-belt) world champion.

                    This is why they ranked Kovalev #1 for Stevenson's WBC title (that didn't work out because HBO essentially put a gun to Kathy Duva's head and said no because they didn't want Haymon outbidding them with his massive war chest of cash and putting the fight on PBC).

                    They then made Golovkin the mando for the Cotto-Canelo winner. Cotto would've paid the 3% of his guaranteed purse regardless of who he fought (that's the $300K -- he's guaranteed $10 million from this fight).

                    But in order to have this fight with Canelo, he had to pay off Golovkin (the mandatory) to the tune of $800K!

                    Then Cotto started doing the math and said, "****! Another $300K? Avoiding this Kazakh basta*d is costing me a lot of money! And I'm not even going to fight him even if I win, so screw it, we'll drop the belt and I'll settle out of court with K2 for half"


                    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE (and ALL FIGHT FANS SHOULD LOVE) that the WBC under Mauricio is trying to use its power to create fights that fans want to see.

                    At least if fighters want to avoid other fighters, it forces them to either (1) fight the guy they want to avoid (2) pay a fortune for the privilege of ducking that guy, or (3) drop the title and reveals them as the shameful ducker they truly are.

                    People want Kovalev-Stevenson and they want to see the winner of Canelo-Cotto fight GGG. And the WBC under Mauricio seems like they're trying to deliver those kinds of fights.
                    ^This is a great post

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                    • bigjavi973
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      WBC has a rule about fighting mandatories - Cotto didn't like it. No one forced Cotto to pay a step-aside fee, he could've just fought his mandatory.

                      Could've fought Golovkin instead of Geale, but he only wanted to pretend to be the MW champion.
                      how do you know for sure he wont fight ggg after the canelo fight?

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