Comments Thread For: Richard Schaefer is "Getting The Itch" To Come Back

[PAC-BOY]

Go away, no one likes you on here weirdo. You're annoying and lame.

Shut up Yusuf Mack.

[Scipio2009]

Kind of boggles my mind lol. How does Haymon have 200 some off fighters....but none of the 10 best?

Because 100 fighters that Haymon has are prospects with less than 10 fights still in the early stages of development.

According to BoxRec(varying amounts of credit given to their ratings here, so whatever), Haymon has relationships with 30 of BoxRec's top 100 fighters, today.

In two years, most of Haymon's prospects should be able to pick up 10 fights. Let's see what things look like then.

[bigdunny1]

Schaefer is needed to give a unified public face for the PBC effort, especially if Al Haymon will continue on his insistence to not step out as the the public on his own accord.

The point that people seem to miss is that the need for a public face only really becomes critical once Phase II of the PBC effort kicks in, namely the consolidation of the product.

Come 2017, a network will end up paying for the entire PBC portfolio (NBC/NBCSN, Showtime/CBS/CBSSports, Fox/FS1, or ABC/ESPN/ESPN2); SpikeTV will likely end up paying out money for their monthlyboxing installment of their 'Friday Night Lights Out' combat sports series, ESPN will likely pay out money for their monthly 'Saturday Night Fights', and BounceTV will also likely end up paying something out if they decide to keep boxing among their content.

When it comes to coordinating all of the press availabilities, marketing fights across the TV properties, etc, there would need to be one voice that stands as "the authority of the PBC"; no different than the commissioner of the NFL/NBA/MLB.

Enter Richard Schaefer.

PBC promoters (DiBella, Michel, Marguiles, Mayweather, Brown, Leija-Battah,etc) still promote the shows, the managers still work to secure the deals for the fighters, and Schaefer can help smooth out the occasional hiccup (Scahefer's relationship with the folks at AEG would likely help make it easier for DiBella/Brown/Marguilles/etc to promote fights at AEG venues) while maintaining a positive press presence for the outfit.

If PBC becomes it's own league with it's own belts then sure but we are a long way away from that. And judging by the TV ratings you are nuts if you think ESPN or any major network will pay a dime for PBC when it's a money sucking product that doesn't make a profit. The TV Ratings started out mediocre and have fallen off a cliff since. They are terrible across the board on all of the networks PBC is on. The networks are only involved right now because PBC investors are PAYING them so they aren't losing money PBC is. But with weak tv ratings to the point that PBC has lost so much money the first half of the year alone why do you think all the top fighters that did fight for PBC are now fighting on Showtime and PBC shows to end the year feature lesser type fighters then the ones in the first half? It's because they are losing money and figure well if we not getting ratings then we at least need to try and slash the money we are overspending for these cards. That's why you seeing lower purses for fights, less advertisement for fights and the bigger named Haymon fighters are back fighting on Showtime where they pay the fighter purses not PBC investors. They are literally losing millions each show and have no real revenue coming in from advertisers because the tv ratings aren't there. So why would any network pay for PBC when it's not a strong brand and so far it's losing ratings and fans not gaining them?

So hiring Schaefer to be the Commissioner of the PBC when we don't even know if this will be around this time 2 years from now for "phase 2" is pretty foolish.

[richardt]

Unless Haymon owes Schaefer blood money for helping him steal away Oscar's fighters why does Haymon need him? And no fighters are singing Schaefer's praise other then Mayweather. So his options are work for Mayweather Promotions or work for Haymon. He needed him years ago to pry away Golden Boy signed fighters. But why does Haymon need Schaefer now?

Exactly. There was a time when Schaefer had some serious value to Haymon but that has dramatically reduced now that Haymon is perfectly able to do well without any connections to Schaefer.

[Scipio2009]

Imagine the UFC without Dana White. Thats what the PBC is right now without a front man of some sort. What title or capacity that person actually takes idk tbqh, but their needs to be someone high up with this PBC entity who's not a hermit & can speak on PBC **** imo.

Maybe I'm wrong or maybe thats something thats way down the line when/if there is a PBC belt or w/e, but I think its something thats needed & would be welcomed by boxing media & fans alike just so PBC's moves don't seem as under the cover of darkness or random like they often do now.

I wanna hear a guy whos with PBC & who says Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter will be happening when weird media rumors pop off for days about a fight like that. Like when Khan said Manny was fighting him or w/e & Bob came out & shut that **** down the next day. PBC needs that. Maybe they just need to teach Haymon how to use twitter idk, but I think they want a president, CEO, head mfer of public discourse or something of PBC. If thats Schaefer or not idk, but its clearly a job no one is doing & seems a worthwhile propaganda arm for PBC if nothing else.

^^^ more or less agree with this

[Scipio2009]

Unless Haymon owes Schaefer blood money for helping him steal away Oscar's fighters why does Haymon need him? And no fighters are singing Schaefer's praise other then Mayweather. So his options are work for Mayweather Promotions or work for Haymon. He needed him years ago to pry away Golden Boy signed fighters. But why does Haymon need Schaefer now?

Schaefer is needed to give a unified public face for the PBC effort, especially if Al Haymon will continue on his insistence to not step out as the the public on his own accord.

The point that people seem to miss is that the need for a public face only really becomes critical once Phase II of the PBC effort kicks in, namely the consolidation of the product.

Come 2017, a network will end up paying for the entire PBC portfolio (NBC/NBCSN, Showtime/CBS/CBSSports, Fox/FS1, or ABC/ESPN/ESPN2); SpikeTV will likely end up paying out money for their monthlyboxing installment of their 'Friday Night Lights Out' combat sports series, ESPN will likely pay out money for their monthly 'Saturday Night Fights', and BounceTV will also likely end up paying something out if they decide to keep boxing among their content.

When it comes to coordinating all of the press availabilities, marketing fights across the TV properties, etc, there would need to be one voice that stands as "the authority of the PBC"; no different than the commissioner of the NFL/NBA/MLB.

Enter Richard Schaefer.

PBC promoters (DiBella, Michel, Marguiles, Mayweather, Brown, Leija-Battah,etc) still promote the shows, the managers still work to secure the deals for the fighters, and Schaefer can help smooth out the occasional hiccup (Scahefer's relationship with the folks at AEG would likely help make it easier for DiBella/Brown/Marguilles/etc to promote fights at AEG venues) while maintaining a positive press presence for the outfit.

[Larry the boss]

richard ****** the hooker while oscar stole her clothes. Glad they working together again

lol............

[Scipio2009]

I honestly didn't think about that, HBO have the 10 best P4P fighters apart from Rigo and Rigo is fighting on the Cotto-Canelo undercard.

That is mad, I think Haymon is doing interesting things but odd how he hasn't managed to (since Floyd retired) nick one of those fighters.

Haymon has near all of the sport's top prospects/contenders/future stars under his umbrella. Come Christmas 2016, Pacquiao will be gone, Cotto would likely be gone as well, Kovalev/Ward/Golovkin would've had their shakeout (I think Ward clears the field), a 40-year old Wladimir Klitschko would've likely have had to face down Tyson Fury, Wilder/Povetkin winner, and possibly Anthony Joshua, Gonzalez-Estrada II would've happened, "Bud" Crawford would have to be ready for the Postol-Imam winner(i think Imam beats Postol), and (WBO belt, aside) Timothy Bradley Jr and "Canelo" Alvarez would've spent another year, toiling on the lesser side of the fence for fights at 147/154 [6 of the 8 belts at those weights seem to be comfortably within the Haymon universe at the moment].

Andre Ward will likely stand as the sport's best fighter [HBO only locking Ward up long enough to fight Sergey Kovalev, to me, is a Jay-Z&J-Prince/Haymon/Espinoza sitdown away from being a major mistake], and Roman Gonzalez will likely also be high on that list; under that, Thurman/Porter/Garcia/Brook/Khan/Spence/etc will all be battling for recognition, Degale/Jack/Abraham/Chudinov/Murray/ChavezJr will be battling likewise, the young lions at 154 (Andrade/Charlo/Charlo/JRock/Trout/etc) will be battling, the UK will play home to the Frampton/Quigg/McDonnell battle at 122, Selby/LSC/RusselJr/Cuellar will likely mix things up at 126, and a host of top prospects from those 2012 Olympics (Spence Jr, Luke Campbell, etc) will dare to be great.

Come 2017 (by the sheer volume of talent that Haymon is coming to the table with), HBO dominating the p4p list is unlikely to still be the case.

[Fetta]

Kind of boggles my mind lol. How does Haymon have 200 some off fighters....but none of the 10 best?

IMAGINE YOU HAVE a baseball team (9 players) but you have 2 superstars. Wouldnt you concentrate and put a majority your resources into keeping those 2 as opposed to the rest? Yes you do and thats why. But without other stars around them they can only go so far

[imperial1]

richard ****** the hooker while oscar stole her clothes. Glad they working together again