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  • #71
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    You are sleeping on Schaeffer big-time.

    And you are also sleeping on Al Haymon.

    If you think Haymon is finished, you're dreaming, he is just getting started.

    Schaeffer would be a huge asset to Haymon looking forward, as he would be to anyone else.
    Haymon is a business man why does he need another business man like Schaefer at this point? He needed him when Schaefer had the talent from Golden Boy's roster. But without that Schaefer needs Haymon not the other way around. And unless Schaefer creates his own Promotional Company and Haymon uses them instead of Lou Dibella, Warriors ect I don't see how he can be the face of these events. That's a promoters job and Haymon and PBC are NOT promoters. If Haymon creates his own boxing league and own belts then maybe. But right now he has to use outside promoters to get around the Ali Act and even still he's in court now fighting charges that he is acting as a promoter. Last thing you want to do is hire a promoter and have him be the front man for your PBC events instead of the actual promoters of the events.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      You got Haymon in court fighting charges saying he is NOT a promoter but you want him to hire a promoter to work for him and speak, talk and act like a promoter? I'm sure that would help his lawsuits. lol
      Solid take & this is one of the things I've considered. I still say they need some better connection to the media then they have & to highlight PBC as a whole better. With the manager/promoter issues I don't know all the concerns & pratfalls that could be issues with this doe, but I think its a role that needs filling at some point. Although f#ck maybe they just need a TV show like the NBA or NFL preview/rumor/general talk shows that focus on all the things coming up & speculate on **** & comment on it & they'll just be interviewing some sort of high level PBC guy about certain topics every other week that need a high level PBC guy.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        Well Haymon is still human & makes mistakes. Most guys like Haymon are defined in their success by their corrections to problems or mistakes than them having the master perfect plan all the time in my experience. And I tend to think Schaefer could have been the guy for this sorta role the whole time & in the first year it wasn't a do or die role to fill thus waiting for Schaefer seemed reasonable.

        All speculation obviously, we'll see. I just don't know how they get to a point when they have PBC belts (which seems like a future goal down the line somewhere) & don't have a publicly seen & media accountable CEO/President/some sorta public facing role type person is I guess the main thing making me feel like its a role that will be filled sooner rather than later.

        Solid take on the promoters being "the faces & voices" of PBC via their own events which is valid. There is some element of wtf else does a person in this role do besides talk to the media that I myself haven't fully formed in my own head yet. The whole PBC entity seems so secretive & almost coup-ish in its development that having someone talking about PBC's drive, plans & goals seems counterproductive to the road they've traveled so far.
        I don't know. Its one of those "we have to wait and see what happens" kind of thing

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        • #74
          Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          Haymon DOES NOT need Schaefer. If he get's a job it's just a thank you for helping him steal away Golden Boy fighters. His biggest asset was he held the keys to the Golden Boys roster. Well that's now gone. Haymon has tons of investors for PBC he don't need Schaefer to get investors he's got the money already. Schaefer can't help with advertising because that is all based on the TV Ratings. PBC needs to put on a better product and turn the crappy TV ratings around to get advertisers not sign Schaefer. As for bring him in to be the front man isn't that what the promoters are supposed to do? I thought PBC and Haymon are NOT promoters guys like Dibella and whatever sham of month promoter that is holding that event needs to be doing that. You got Haymon in court fighting charges saying he is NOT a promoter but you want him to hire a promoter to work for him and speak, talk and act like a promoter? I'm sure that would help his lawsuits. lol
          my bad I accidentally quoted you. haha I never knew how to do that ti'll now

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          • #75
            Richard will go where the money is flowing and that is PBC. His job should not be too hard.

            When PBC first started they had good ratings and bad fights. Now they have bad ratings and very good fights. Richard's job will be to get the viewers back. He knows how to strategize and can do that easy enough.

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            • #76
              Mmm really interesting. I wasn't expecting all the praise for HBO from Richard. He basically said that 2015 has belonged to them and that they have the best P4P fighters on their channel. He did mention PBC but he was just being politically correct saying that it's still on it's early stages.

              Nice to see Richard not being bias..

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Vicious. View Post
                Whats there to manage? Most of the guys are just gonna be fed to his favorite fighters and only a handful (if lucky) are actual talent. Doesn't he already have a guy for that anyway?
                Think big bro, like Haymon

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                  who cares ?
                  Still salting i see

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    Haymon is a business man why does he need another business man like Schaefer at this point? He needed him when Schaefer had the talent from Golden Boy's roster. But without that Schaefer needs Haymon not the other way around. And unless Schaefer creates his own Promotional Company and Haymon uses them instead of Lou Dibella, Warriors ect I don't see how he can be the face of these events. That's a promoters job and Haymon and PBC are NOT promoters. If Haymon creates his own boxing league and own belts then maybe. But right now he has to use outside promoters to get around the Ali Act and even still he's in court now fighting charges that he is acting as a promoter. Last thing you want to do is hire a promoter and have him be the front man for your PBC events instead of the actual promoters of the events.
                    Because its a big fkn business

                    Jeez, I can't believe you guys LMAO

                    You have absolutely no idea what ideas/plans Haymon has in the pipeline looking forward, if you think that PBC is it, you are fkn dreaming..... I can see them branching out into all sorts of thing's including other aspects of the entertainment industry.

                    If you guys don't think that a smart capable guy like Schaeffer would be a huge asset to ANYONE, then I don't know to say.

                    Is it easier/quicker and more suitable, if I just say that Schaefer is a smelly cvnt and leave it there?

                    Ii is unreasonable to write off his worth just because you don't like him.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by littlemac View Post
                      Still salting i see
                      Do you care ?

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