Comments Thread For: Richard Schaefer is "Getting The Itch" To Come Back

[Larry the boss]

richard ****** the hooker while oscar stole her clothes. Glad they working together again

lol............

[Scipio2009]

Unless Haymon owes Schaefer blood money for helping him steal away Oscar's fighters why does Haymon need him? And no fighters are singing Schaefer's praise other then Mayweather. So his options are work for Mayweather Promotions or work for Haymon. He needed him years ago to pry away Golden Boy signed fighters. But why does Haymon need Schaefer now?

Schaefer is needed to give a unified public face for the PBC effort, especially if Al Haymon will continue on his insistence to not step out as the the public on his own accord.

The point that people seem to miss is that the need for a public face only really becomes critical once Phase II of the PBC effort kicks in, namely the consolidation of the product.

Come 2017, a network will end up paying for the entire PBC portfolio (NBC/NBCSN, Showtime/CBS/CBSSports, Fox/FS1, or ABC/ESPN/ESPN2); SpikeTV will likely end up paying out money for their monthlyboxing installment of their 'Friday Night Lights Out' combat sports series, ESPN will likely pay out money for their monthly 'Saturday Night Fights', and BounceTV will also likely end up paying something out if they decide to keep boxing among their content.

When it comes to coordinating all of the press availabilities, marketing fights across the TV properties, etc, there would need to be one voice that stands as "the authority of the PBC"; no different than the commissioner of the NFL/NBA/MLB.

Enter Richard Schaefer.

PBC promoters (DiBella, Michel, Marguiles, Mayweather, Brown, Leija-Battah,etc) still promote the shows, the managers still work to secure the deals for the fighters, and Schaefer can help smooth out the occasional hiccup (Scahefer's relationship with the folks at AEG would likely help make it easier for DiBella/Brown/Marguilles/etc to promote fights at AEG venues) while maintaining a positive press presence for the outfit.

[Scipio2009]

Imagine the UFC without Dana White. Thats what the PBC is right now without a front man of some sort. What title or capacity that person actually takes idk tbqh, but their needs to be someone high up with this PBC entity who's not a hermit & can speak on PBC **** imo.

Maybe I'm wrong or maybe thats something thats way down the line when/if there is a PBC belt or w/e, but I think its something thats needed & would be welcomed by boxing media & fans alike just so PBC's moves don't seem as under the cover of darkness or random like they often do now.

I wanna hear a guy whos with PBC & who says Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter will be happening when weird media rumors pop off for days about a fight like that. Like when Khan said Manny was fighting him or w/e & Bob came out & shut that **** down the next day. PBC needs that. Maybe they just need to teach Haymon how to use twitter idk, but I think they want a president, CEO, head mfer of public discourse or something of PBC. If thats Schaefer or not idk, but its clearly a job no one is doing & seems a worthwhile propaganda arm for PBC if nothing else.

^^^ more or less agree with this

[richardt]

Unless Haymon owes Schaefer blood money for helping him steal away Oscar's fighters why does Haymon need him? And no fighters are singing Schaefer's praise other then Mayweather. So his options are work for Mayweather Promotions or work for Haymon. He needed him years ago to pry away Golden Boy signed fighters. But why does Haymon need Schaefer now?

Exactly. There was a time when Schaefer had some serious value to Haymon but that has dramatically reduced now that Haymon is perfectly able to do well without any connections to Schaefer.

[bigdunny1]

Schaefer is needed to give a unified public face for the PBC effort, especially if Al Haymon will continue on his insistence to not step out as the the public on his own accord.

The point that people seem to miss is that the need for a public face only really becomes critical once Phase II of the PBC effort kicks in, namely the consolidation of the product.

Come 2017, a network will end up paying for the entire PBC portfolio (NBC/NBCSN, Showtime/CBS/CBSSports, Fox/FS1, or ABC/ESPN/ESPN2); SpikeTV will likely end up paying out money for their monthlyboxing installment of their 'Friday Night Lights Out' combat sports series, ESPN will likely pay out money for their monthly 'Saturday Night Fights', and BounceTV will also likely end up paying something out if they decide to keep boxing among their content.

When it comes to coordinating all of the press availabilities, marketing fights across the TV properties, etc, there would need to be one voice that stands as "the authority of the PBC"; no different than the commissioner of the NFL/NBA/MLB.

Enter Richard Schaefer.

PBC promoters (DiBella, Michel, Marguiles, Mayweather, Brown, Leija-Battah,etc) still promote the shows, the managers still work to secure the deals for the fighters, and Schaefer can help smooth out the occasional hiccup (Scahefer's relationship with the folks at AEG would likely help make it easier for DiBella/Brown/Marguilles/etc to promote fights at AEG venues) while maintaining a positive press presence for the outfit.

If PBC becomes it's own league with it's own belts then sure but we are a long way away from that. And judging by the TV ratings you are nuts if you think ESPN or any major network will pay a dime for PBC when it's a money sucking product that doesn't make a profit. The TV Ratings started out mediocre and have fallen off a cliff since. They are terrible across the board on all of the networks PBC is on. The networks are only involved right now because PBC investors are PAYING them so they aren't losing money PBC is. But with weak tv ratings to the point that PBC has lost so much money the first half of the year alone why do you think all the top fighters that did fight for PBC are now fighting on Showtime and PBC shows to end the year feature lesser type fighters then the ones in the first half? It's because they are losing money and figure well if we not getting ratings then we at least need to try and slash the money we are overspending for these cards. That's why you seeing lower purses for fights, less advertisement for fights and the bigger named Haymon fighters are back fighting on Showtime where they pay the fighter purses not PBC investors. They are literally losing millions each show and have no real revenue coming in from advertisers because the tv ratings aren't there. So why would any network pay for PBC when it's not a strong brand and so far it's losing ratings and fans not gaining them?

So hiring Schaefer to be the Commissioner of the PBC when we don't even know if this will be around this time 2 years from now for "phase 2" is pretty foolish.

[Scipio2009]

Kind of boggles my mind lol. How does Haymon have 200 some off fighters....but none of the 10 best?

Because 100 fighters that Haymon has are prospects with less than 10 fights still in the early stages of development.

According to BoxRec(varying amounts of credit given to their ratings here, so whatever), Haymon has relationships with 30 of BoxRec's top 100 fighters, today.

In two years, most of Haymon's prospects should be able to pick up 10 fights. Let's see what things look like then.

[PAC-BOY]

Go away, no one likes you on here weirdo. You're annoying and lame.

Shut up Yusuf Mack.

[Scipio2009]

If PBC becomes it's own league with it's own belts then sure but we are a long way away from that. And judging by the TV ratings you are nuts if you think ESPN or any major network will pay a dime for PBC when it's a money sucking product that doesn't make a profit. The TV Ratings started out mediocre and have fallen off a cliff since. They are terrible across the board on all of the networks PBC is on. The networks are only involved right now because PBC investors are PAYING them so they aren't losing money PBC is. But with weak tv ratings to the point that PBC has lost so much money the first half of the year alone why do you think all the top fighters that did fight for PBC are now fighting on Showtime and PBC shows to end the year feature lesser type fighters then the ones in the first half? It's because they are losing money and figure well if we not getting ratings then we at least need to try and slash the money we are overspending for these cards. That's why you seeing lower purses for fights, less advertisement for fights and the bigger named Haymon fighters are back fighting on Showtime where they pay the fighter purses not PBC investors. They are literally losing millions each show and have no real revenue coming in from advertisers because the tv ratings aren't there. So why would any network pay for PBC when it's not a strong brand and so far it's losing ratings and fans not gaining them?

So hiring Schaefer to be the Commissioner of the PBC when we don't even know if this will be around this time 2 years from now for "phase 2" is pretty foolish.

-I don't think PBC ever ends up going with creating it's own belts (boxing is a sport with so much of a long-standing and entrenched history that I don't see the boxing audience ever accepting that, as of 2015, "the PBC belt is the top championship"); establishing a PBC belt for unified champions (ie Klitschko-Wilder winner, Stevenson-Kovalev winner, Brook/Thurman/Khan/Garcia/Porter winner, Degale/Jack/Abraham/Chudinov winner, LSC/RussellJr/Selby/Cuellar winner, Frampton/Quigg/Ruiz-Ceja winner, etc), in lieu of bothering with Ring Magazine, would actually make sense.

-We still need to see what things look like in 2016, but PBC's viewership numbers seem to have proven an idea that was accepted as fact beforehand; in the US, nothing competes for viewership eyeballs against college football/NFL.

From January through the end of August, the calendar is wide open for PBC programming; from September through New Year's Day, the competition for eyeballs is fierce enough that show placements needs to be far more selective (moving shows to Showtime and working through the Power 5 schedules, looking for "dead weekends" to fill with shows, makes sense).


Honestly not willing to disprove your whole "PBC is doing so terrible that everyone is jumping from the PBC ship" rhetoric, so have a nice day.

[Scipio2009]

I would love to see Shaefer work with Mayweather. That would implode spectacularly within 2 years no doubt.
Will be interesting to see what impact he will have though. He was successful with GBP but he had Oscar De La Hoya's name to work with. People forget but Oscar was one of the biggest crossover (no pun intended) stars in the sport and everyone wanted to be associated with him. He wouldn't have that advantage with Mayweather as he isn't as marketable and not many people want to be in business with him due to his past. On the other hand Shaefer has more experience and I am sure his own relationships built himself.

I think you're underestimating the scope of people willing/unwilling to do business with Mayweather. Is Floyd ever going to be selling Coca Cola or McDonalds? Probably not.

Still, MGM Resorts has done business with the man for years, Stephen Espinoza is happy to do business with him, CBS CEO Les Moonves has seen his company's bet on Mayweather pay off in a major way, and, outside of the aborted Reebok deal, anyone who has sat to do business with Mayweather has generally walked away happy to have done business with Mayweather.

As a crossover star, Mayweather has arguably eclipsed what Oscar was able to accomplish (people seem to always discount how much Oscar's substance abuse and personal antics have dissuaded companies from doing business with him also). Outside of Latin/Latin American communities, I'd even go as far as arguing that Mayweather's name trumps Oscar's name in front of every demographic audience (how Floyd's jail time for domestic violence plays against Oscar's substance abuse/lifestyle choices among the casual 30-60 y/o Americana audience is beyond me).

The key hang-up, though, with laying the laurels of a company on Mayweather is that, if Floyd sticks to his word, Schaefer won't have the lure of arguing "do business with me and you can have the opportunity to be a part of a Mayweather fight".

[Lou Cipher]

**** Chaffer missed the boat. Fraud Pedcheater Jr got exposed as a cheater and his ridiculous shell corporation "promotional" outfit is as about as important to Boxing as his ridiculous "Philthy Rich Records" label is to music. PBC already did whatever they think theyre doing without you, ****. Oscar will never re-hire you. Beat it, Turd.