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  • [T][B][E]
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    #21
    Originally posted by BOXEO _
    I said the top dogs at 168 won't duck him, not improve his resume.
    okay i get it, well Al haymon has a hold of Top competition at 168 at the moment, i think he has Degale too.

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      #22
      Originally posted by [T][B][E]
      He should step up and fight Ward instead of waiting for guys we all know wont fight him.

      You say things ain't getting worse. For every BUM he beats His legacy to me look like its taking a hit.
      Its actually the other way around. For every champion at 160, it solidifies how much of a bad ass he really is. Dudes would rather make excuses to not fight him, drop their belts and leave their division entirely just to avoid him. Thats actually quite impressive and unprecedented.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BOXEO _
        Haha, exactly. The only one that can give him a run for his money at 160 is Jacobs, and unless they ditch their promoters it ain't ever going to happen.

        168 is where Golovkin should be headed. The top dogs up there won't duck him.
        You think Jacobs gives GGG a good fight? I think he gets KO'ed in that one. The way he was dropped by Mora was very concerning. I think Jacobs gets beaten by Cotto, Canelo, Lara. I think that GGG's toughest opponent is someone coming up from 154, like Lara, Cotto, Canelo, Andrade, one of the Charlo's and I don't mean that as a good thing. MW is so bad that the JMW's have a better chance at beating GGG. JMW's are more skilled than the raw MW's. I think someone like Austin Trout can become a champ at MW. It really is not a good division.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          You think Jacobs gives GGG a good fight? I think he gets KO'ed in that one. The way he was dropped by Mora was very concerning. I think Jacobs gets beaten by Cotto, Canelo, Lara. I think that GGG's toughest opponent is someone coming up from 154, like Lara, Cotto, Canelo, Andrade, one of the Charlo's and I don't mean that as a good thing. MW is so bad that the JMW's have a better chance at beating GGG. JMW's are more skilled than the raw MW's. I think someone like Austin Trout can become a champ at MW. It really is not a good division.

          Yeah I think he gives him a good fight, a better fight than anybody else at 160 anyway.

          I'd have to see Cotto, Canelo or Lara above 155 to see how'd they'd do against Jacobs.

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            #25
            I can't see the Ward fight happening. I have a su****ion Ward can't really make 168 that comfortably anymore anyway. He was very inactive and is now in his 30's. He wasn't a small SMW anyway. I think 168 would be a struggle.

            So the Cotto fight is out of the window, Canelo won't fight him. There's no other big money fight at MW. Super Middleweight is a fairly weak division compared to a few years ago.

            His best chance of a big pay day and big name would be to get Froch out of retirement, if enough money can be generated to make it worth his while. He's financially very comfortable and invested well, he won't come back unless it's big money. I can't really see any other options now.

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              #26
              Originally posted by [T][B][E]
              Give me some names. apart from Degale who will improve his resume at 168?
              Abraham, Jack, either Dirrell, Ramirez would easily be the best win on his resume. Easily, not even a debate. Especially if AA beats Murray.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                Its actually the other way around. For every champion at 160, it solidifies how much of a bad ass he really is. Dudes would rather make excuses to not fight him, drop their belts and leave their division entirely just to avoid him. Thats actually quite impressive and unprecedented.
                Moving up and taking challenges from top competition vs Beating fighters your supposed to beat.

                Yes okay maybe.

                Has Cotto ever weighed in at 160 before? hmm


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                  #28
                  Originally posted by [T][B][E]
                  come on, hes a fighter cant tell me hes wont be disappointed not to fight on a big stage and get a Payday? His team is always talking about money when it comes to WARD.
                  Oh hell yeah, you know he'd be pissed off. But for the sake of public opinion, he isn't going to say that, he just kind of played it off like Cotto was a speed bump on the way to the inevitable so that he can save face if the fight doesn't happen. The good thing for him is that he has held that stance since the beginning when it comes to unifying 160.

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                    #29
                    Ward can't make 168.
                    He went up to fight at 175.
                    Yeap, it seems he is in talk to fight Kovalev

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by [T][B][E]
                      Moving up and taking challenges from top competition vs Beating fighters your supposed to beat.

                      Yes okay maybe.

                      Has Cotto ever weighed in at 160 before? hmm
                      So you are saying Hagler wasnt a great fighter, right?
                      Hopkins, at 160, wasnt great, right?

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