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  • ukbox
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    #91
    AJs been shaken & down when facing fighters that have hunger. The old saying you can't put muscles on your chin holds true with the exception of Wach(who's like a beefy **** darstedly & has been caught on ped)
    AJs tightened up his punches, he's crisper & packs more power, but we don't know if he carries the weight late & he could struggle lifting himself off the floor if caught
    From what I've seen of his videos he's not tucking his chin in so he's there to be hit if someone is willing to grit it out
    He's got potential but its early days

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #92
      With Price, they weren't "stories" or rumours.

      He was getting dropped like a sack of **** in recorded amateur fights.

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        #93
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Did he? Because I remember him being pushed back, shook and looking awful against someone as absolute crap as Matt Skelton.

        People, incl. myself wanted Price to be good - We wanted him to be better than he was. He was NEVER as talented as Joshua. He could never do was Joshua can do now.

        I don't know why people say he looks stiff. When? He looks smooth to me. Honestly. Good footwork, pumping jab, throws the uppercuts, hooks, checkhooks, left and right. Can move and slip.

        He's not stiff at all.
        Jousha is better than Price, i agree, but you are overhyping him.

        I see a big lad with power and rage...He doesnt use his jab properly, his chin is up in the air, he's not very patient.

        You look at guys like Wlad and Lennox, you can see them thinking in the ring...I dont see this with Jousha..

        Obviously that "chess brain" comes with experience, and Jousha doesn't have it yet.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          With Price, they weren't "stories" or rumours.

          He was getting dropped like a sack of **** in recorded amateur fights.
          You are right.

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          • LacedUp
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            #95
            Originally posted by FrankieBruno
            That punch Haye landed on Wlad shook him up, so much so, he had to clinch till he regained his senses...Its just Haye was unable to follow up with anything else

            Ive heard stories about Jousha gettin dropped in sparring, not sure how much truth there is in that, but these same stories were out there about Price as well

            Anyways from what i see, Jousha looks a bit stiff, top heavy, i can see him dropping like a bag of cement whens someone lands clean. He goes in for the kill with his chin up in the air, i dont feel he uses his reach advantage and size properly.
            He might not pack granite, but he's not panicking like Price is whenever a punch is coming in his general direction.

            He took a shot off someone i remember. A left hook and it just bounced off. I mean, nothing special, but that never happened with Price.

            He was always packing china.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Based on Joshua blowing out part-time joiners and carpet fitters?

              You don't have a clue what Joshua is like over 12 rounds. At least wait until he's been in with someone who throws punches back before you start deep throating.
              And who exactly did Chisora take out that was any different?

              Chisora was never a strong 12 round fighter either. Don Charles had to talk him up from round 7 onwards in every single long fight he had.

              I mean, stamina talks. One of the ******est talks in boxing. Look at Joshua ffs. Of course he can go rounds.

              Chisora simply doesn't have anything to ever trouble Joshua and you saying he could give him problems is laughable. He absolutely could never do anything with AJ. Ever.

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                #97
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                And who exactly did Chisora take out that was any different?

                Chisora was never a strong 12 round fighter either. Don Charles had to talk him up from round 7 onwards in every single long fight he had.

                I mean, stamina talks. One of the ******est talks in boxing. Look at Joshua ffs. Of course he can go rounds.

                Chisora simply doesn't have anything to ever trouble Joshua and you saying he could give him problems is laughable. He absolutely could never do anything with AJ. Ever.
                Look at Joshua? I have. He looks like a big pumped up musclebound divvy tbh lol....why would I not have doubts that he can do 12 rounds at a fast pace?

                Fighters with that kind of physique almost always have stamina issues.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Look at Joshua? I have. He looks like a big pumped up musclebound divvy tbh lol....why would I not have doubts that he can do 12 rounds at a fast pace?

                  Fighters with that kind of physique almost always have stamina issues.
                  Who had stamina issues with that physique? Klitschko? That's about it. People mention Bruno, but even he proved to have decent stamina.

                  Besides, Chisora isn't really the guy to go at a fast pace for 12 rounds. There's absolutely no doubt that Joshua would have his way with Chisora with ease.

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                    #99
                    best bum in boxing. i've seen it.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Who had stamina issues with that physique? Klitschko? That's about it. People mention Bruno, but even he proved to have decent stamina.

                      Besides, Chisora isn't really the guy to go at a fast pace for 12 rounds. There's absolutely no doubt that Joshua would have his way with Chisora with ease.
                      Jeff Lacy came to mind. I guess he did go 12 rounds with Calzaghe but that pretty much ended his career. Wlad is a good one. David Price. David Haye. Andre Berto.

                      Big musclebound fighters who are big punchers tend to have poor stamina because they shoot their wads early. That's just common sense and it's not unreasonable to question Joshua's stamina considering he hasn't been past 3 rounds or been in with anyone who has actually fought back.

                      You're drinking the Joshua juice a little too early and not using reason or logic.

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