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  • #81
    Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
    I still remember watching Jousha in the Olympics and was shaken by that Chinese fella...well i think it was the chinese fella?, he was shaken up by someone anyways....

    Ant looks promising, but he also looks a bit stiff, and i just have this feeling, soon as someone lands a clean shot, it'll be lights out

    There is something David Price like about Jousha.

    As it stands Jousha doesnt have the boxing brain of Wlad...

    and Haye wobbled Wlad, who is extremely difficult to catch clean.
    There's literally zero comparison between Pricey and joshua other than both being in the Olympics.

    It's clear for everyone with a pair of eyes that Joshua is infinitely better than him.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
      Do you think Hearn would be crazy enough to match Joshua up with Haye?

      As it stands AJ already looks certain to be on PPV from now on which is pretty crazy considering he's not fought a single good opponent yet, well Kingpin was a sort of name a good win only since it was a KO over him since he's never been stopped.

      It's just crazy to have a guy that's never beat someone that good to be headlining a PPV fight just because of an amateur fight several years ago, its absolutely madness but I guess Eddie is hyping this up even better than Price was when he still had his 0.
      Why wouldn't he match up Joshua with Haye?

      Imagine having AJ as your fighter for a second. Outside of Wlad, who would you really say beat Joshua for sure? No one in my mind. I know he's not proven etc etc, but neither is Haye at heavyweight. He's a big puncher and all, but Joshua would by far, BY FAR be his best win at heavyweight. If you believe you have the best heavyweight on the planet, then matching him up with people like Haye makes sense - also because it would be the biggest heavyweight fight since Bruno-Lewis.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
        I still remember watching Jousha in the Olympics and was shaken by that Chinese fella...well i think it was the chinese fella?, he was shaken up by someone anyways....

        Ant looks promising, but he also looks a bit stiff, and i just have this feeling, soon as someone lands a clean shot, it'll be lights out

        There is something David Price like about Jousha.

        As it stands Jousha doesnt have the boxing brain of Wlad...

        and Haye wobbled Wlad, who is extremely difficult to catch clean.
        Wlad recently got wobbled by a jab worse than anything Haye hit him with.

        It's all if's and but's with Joshua, but I don't think there is anything so far to suggest he will end up like David Price.

        His chin is untested, but that's not his fault.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          No he wouldn't. Chisora doesn't have anything to trouble Joshua at all with. He'd be minced meat in a couple of rounds. Absolute dead cert.
          Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          Like with everyone who never fought each other, we will never know.

          But Joshua is heaps better and does everything better than Chisora ever did. Over 12 rounds or by KO, Joshua would win for sure.
          Based on Joshua blowing out part-time joiners and carpet fitters?

          You don't have a clue what Joshua is like over 12 rounds. At least wait until he's been in with someone who throws punches back before you start deep throating.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            Why wouldn't he match up Joshua with Haye?

            Imagine having AJ as your fighter for a second. Outside of Wlad, who would you really say beat Joshua for sure? No one in my mind. I know he's not proven etc etc, but neither is Haye at heavyweight. He's a big puncher and all, but Joshua would by far, BY FAR be his best win at heavyweight. If you believe you have the best heavyweight on the planet, then matching him up with people like Haye makes sense - also because it would be the biggest heavyweight fight since Bruno-Lewis.
            Hmm I guess so, it's a big risk even bigger than the Price Vs Thompson fight.
            In one case you could have Haye lose which Hearn needs to happen and from it AJ's stock rises tenfold and rightfully so but the other is Haye does what most might expect him to do and be too elusive for AJ and box circles around him and KO him then we're back to rebuilding.

            There's a good few fighters I would fancy to beat him with Pulev, Wladimir, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz and Haye really who knows at this point one things certain I believe in his power now hence why I wont say for sure that he will lose any of those fights mentioned I just want to see how he copes with a better mover and someone who can counter Jennings might be that man to try him out.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              Hmm I guess so, it's a big risk even bigger than the Price Vs Thompson fight.
              In one case you could have Haye lose which Hearn needs to happen and from it AJ's stock rises tenfold and rightfully so but the other is Haye does what most might expect him to do and be too elusive for AJ and box circles around him and KO him then we're back to rebuilding.

              There's a good few fighters I would fancy to beat him with Pulev, Wladimir, Povetkin, Jennings, Ortiz and Haye really who knows at this point one things certain I believe in his power now hence why I wont say for sure that he will lose any of those fights mentioned I just want to see how he copes with a better mover and someone who can counter Jennings might be that man to try him out.
              I guess it's a big risk. A helluva lot bigger than Price vs Thompson which wasn't even perceived as a risk when it happened. But again, Joshua is so much better than Price that I have a hard time comparing the two.

              Pulev, Ortiz, Jennings? Really? Joshua would beat them all in one night I think. Seriously. I'm not joking.

              Of course guys like Povetkin, Wilder and Haye are big threats - But would you say for sure they beat Joshua? I wouldn't. And he's only had 15 or so fights. If he's as good as I think he is, then none of those guys would beat him in 2017.

              I can honestly say that I haven't seen another heavyweight with that kind of game come on the scene since an early Wladimir Klitschko and that includes Povetkin, Wilder and those kind of guys and it definitely includes Price.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                There's literally zero comparison between Pricey and joshua other than both being in the Olympics.

                It's clear for everyone with a pair of eyes that Joshua is infinitely better than him.
                Price looked like a beast till he was matched up aganist TT, who broke his confidence

                Jousha looks good, but he's been matched up against bums and boxers on the verge of retirement

                He's never taken any punishment, we dont know what he is truly made of.

                We don't know anything about his stamina, his chin, his boxing brain.

                So far all i see is a big lad with power, who isnt scared to come forwards and let his hands go,

                but he looks a bit stiff if you ask me, i just have this bad feeling about him.

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                • #88
                  Price was always chinny though. He got floored by Tyson Fury in the amateurs and got knocked out in the Olympic semis.

                  I don't know why people thought he was going to be great.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
                    Price looked like a beast till he was matched up aganist TT, who broke his confidence

                    Jousha looks good, but he's been matched up against bums and boxers on the verge of retirement

                    He's never taken any punishment, we dont know what he is truly made of.

                    We don't know anything about his stamina, his chin, his boxing brain.

                    So far all i see is a big lad with power, who isnt scared to come forwards and let his hands go,

                    but he looks a bit stiff if you ask me, i just have this bad feeling about him.
                    Did he? Because I remember him being pushed back, shook and looking awful against someone as absolute crap as Matt Skelton.

                    People, incl. myself wanted Price to be good - We wanted him to be better than he was. He was NEVER as talented as Joshua. He could never do was Joshua can do now.

                    I don't know why people say he looks stiff. When? He looks smooth to me. Honestly. Good footwork, pumping jab, throws the uppercuts, hooks, checkhooks, left and right. Can move and slip.

                    He's not stiff at all.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by PrinceNaz88 View Post
                      Wlad recently got wobbled by a jab worse than anything Haye hit him with.

                      It's all if's and but's with Joshua, but I don't think there is anything so far to suggest he will end up like David Price.

                      His chin is untested, but that's not his fault.
                      That punch Haye landed on Wlad shook him up, so much so, he had to clinch till he regained his senses...Its just Haye was unable to follow up with anything else

                      Ive heard stories about Jousha gettin dropped in sparring, not sure how much truth there is in that, but these same stories were out there about Price as well

                      Anyways from what i see, Jousha looks a bit stiff, top heavy, i can see him dropping like a bag of cement whens someone lands clean. He goes in for the kill with his chin up in the air, i dont feel he uses his reach advantage and size properly.

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