When was the last time Floyd Mayweather fought an equal 1:1 counterpart?

[The Big Dunn]

The point of this thread was to find out if Floyd ever fought someone who is as good as him. Someone who can challenge Floyd so we could figure out where to rate him.

Guys like Ali, SRL, SRR, have all been underdogs, and they came out victorious even against the odds. That's what makes them ATG's.

With Floyd, we have never seen him fight an opponent who was a favourite to win. The only guy who comes close is Coralles. That's it. Out of 50 fights, just one fight that's a close fight on paper.

DLH, Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao - he fought them all when they were out of their primes.

And then you have folks like Gurrero, Berto, JMM (when he was the much smaller guy)- what was the point of fighting these clowns? These were wasteful fights for Floyd.

All I was trying to say was this: Floyd has never fought a man equal to him or better than him. It's true that Floyd is really good so he would be the obvious favourite in most fights, but there have been many occasions where he could have picked his opponents while they were still in their primes or opponents who could pose a threat to him (Khan, or GGG at 160)

The problem is you are not willing to point out the truth about why certain fights didn't happen. To blame Floyd for odh, Mosley, cotto and Manny fights happening late is to completely distort the truth.

Each of these men could've fought Floyd earlier but chose not to. The difference between Ali, srr, srl and floyd that you fail to point out- their top competitors never waited to fight them.

When srl waits 5 years to fight hagler you don't hold it against him. You give odh credit for the same thing you criticize Floyd for.

You are entitled to your own opinion but it would be nice if you reached it by considering everything, not forming it and then discounting facts that make it false.

[imperial1]

When there were possible legitimate challenges he found a way to back out of those fights


Martinez when he was on top called him out Floyd never answered


Winky Wright was already to go when he was atop the Jr MW divsion but for some reason Floyd backs out at the last minute

After he beat Oscar he could have either rematched him or taken on one of the ww's at the time,but what does he do he retires for two yrs only to back and fight a career feather weight ..Its laughable how this guy gets defended yet his most garbage opponents get elevated like Gatti ..20 yrs and the man could not get a meaningful fight my ass he wasn't that much greater than the rest like his fans led you to believe he carefully picked and chose his fights were he was the favorite he knew what he was doing he wasn't that much better he just chose not to fight anyone that would present him a legit challenge he just waited to collect names more than anything !

[therealpugilist]

Diego Corrales was favored and this fight was supposed to be a lightweight Leonard vs Hearns


Mayweather hasn'thad 1:1 type fights because he is that good and he has made so many so called even matches look easy once they happen


It started with Corrales and by the time he beat DLH in 2007, people knew better than to bet against him no matter how much they hate him

[imperial1]

Diego Corrales was favored and this fight was supposed to be a lightweight Leonard vs Hearns


Mayweather hasn'thad 1:1 type fights because he is that good and he has made so many so called even matches look easy once they happen


It started with Corrales and by the time he beat DLH in 2007, people knew better than to bet against him no matter how much they hate him

Sure he was that much better that's why he backed out the Wright fight huh ..

He made matches look easy because he cherry picked the weakest opponents most recently Maidnada twice ,Berto Gurrero and Ortiz .. That's far from a murders row !

[Bozbay]

Was there ever a time when Floyd fought someone at 1:1 odds?

Or, better yet, was he ever an "underdog" on the odds? I'm talking about both betting odds and reality.

Don't say Corrales-Mayweather because Mayweather was the slight favourite at the time. Diego Corrales +110. Floyd Mayweather Jr. -130

So, Mayweather has never ever been an "underdog" according to betting odds.

I would like to say this: I think Floyd is a great fighter, and is God gifted. But what would make him an ATG is if he fought someone as an "underdog" and beat him.

Diago was the favorite. And doesn't that justify his greatness even more? The fact that he was always expected to win shows how great he was. Winning as an underdog is great but to almost always be favorite tells you something. The guy was just too good for this generation.

[therealpugilist]

Sure he was that much better that's why he backed out the Wright fight huh ..

He made matches look easy because he cherry picked the weakest opponents most recently Maidnada twice ,Berto Gurrero and Ortiz .. That's far from a murders row !

you left off fighter of the decade Pacquaio...is he still swimming in the pacific ocean??? You know ocean water is the new Epson salt


LOL....yea they were so weak that all four fighters won major titles in their careers


Winky Wright lol....DLH didn't fight Wright, why didn't he fight Wright? they both held titles at the same time at 154...Wright was a career junior middleweight, that fight was not gonna happen considering Floyd only had a few fights at 140 and up and Wright was moving up....Wrights last fight at 154 was in 2004 when Floyd was still at 140 dude, you sound silly....you need to learn more boxing and follow the sport instead of trolling

I know this sucks for you but everyone you say he ducked or avoided, he accomplished far more than they did

[FrankieClutch]

How many fights have EVER had 1:1 odds?

[Zaroku]

Opponents that had large followings that said before the fight Floyd would get beat , Oscar Canelo Cotto Manny , early on the same deal with Corrales Castillo Hernandez and even Gatti to an extent , the entire body of work is very impressive when he fought guys out of prime he was also out of prime or giving weight away to them .

People like to talk like Floyd never fought a challenge with a chance to lose , he fought many and always found a way to win , you dont achieve and accomplish what he has and not be an ATG , I dont buy the TBE deal at all but there is no doubt the guy is the best of his era and a genuine ATG .

Floyd should fight Ward, Kovalev, Vitali, or Tyson Fury! Why not all at the same time??? This is what fools want to see, a completely unlevelled fighting field.

Pre-fight, many boxing pundits predicted Ployd/Floyd could be beaten by a cast of characters, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton, Corrales, Mosley, Manny, etc.. Etc...

The guy they thought was selling his title, Castillo probably actually beat Floyd in the first fight, but lost in the rematch. Maidana put them *****l thangs---laid non-healing hands on Floyd. Pounded him all over, and in secret places too!
But lost on points like Castillo.

Manny was easy "money"!

Floyd did more than enough to be a great. He is not TBE. Made more money... No doubt about it.

[M Bison]

Floyd should fight Ward, Kovalev, Vitali, or Tyson Fury! Why not all at the same time??? This is what fools want to see, a completely unlevelled fighting field.

Pre-fight, many boxing pundits predicted Ployd/Floyd could be beaten by a cast of characters, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton, Corrales, Mosley, Manny, etc.. Etc...

The guy they thought was selling his title, Castillo probably actually beat Floyd in the first fight, but lost in the rematch. Maidana put them *****l thangs---laid non-healing hands on Floyd. Pounded him all over, and in secret places too!
But lost on points like Castillo.

Manny was easy "money"!

Floyd did more than enough to be a great. He is not TBE. Made more money... No doubt about it.

To beat Floyd you need to be a big cash cow which neither Castillo or Maidana were, If Pacquiao put on the performance Castillo/Maidana did make no doubt about it Floyd would have definitely lost.

[hugh grant]

Floyd being favourite is no big deal all his career. Jeff Lacy was favourite against Joe Calzaghe....so what? Whilst Floyd is only ever favourite against smaller guys like Pac coming off of Kos, or Miguel who was coming off of 2 kos to Marg and Pac, so why would Miguel be favourite against Floyd?

Take a risk. Fight a great fighter whos considered real dangerous is what its all about. That Floyd dont do. To be TBE you got to do extraordinary things, and Floyd being favourite in his fights isnt doing anything that is impressing anyone, just like Jeff Lacy being favourite didnt impress me and make me bow to Lacy.

Should have fought DLH, SSM, Cotto, Pac in their primes or Hatton at his best weight etc etc etc etc. Should have fought Sergio at 160....didnt. So fight GGG at 160 then. Wont!!!!! Because hes satisfied with what hes achieved. And so he should be, the average boxer would be. Just dont say your the GOAT. Because that you obviously didnt strive for