When was the last time Floyd Mayweather fought an equal 1:1 counterpart?

[Johnwoo8686]

So who did he beat that was in their prime that was considered an ATG, HOFer????
You didn't seem to mention anyone, why?

HOF is decided five years after you retire. Sugar Ray Robinson beat Jake Lamotta in the 1940s and Lamotta didn't get into the hall of fame until 1990! Who's to say Canelo Alvarez won''t be in the hall of fame? Who's to say Diego Corrales won't be in the hall of fame? Who's to say Ricky Hatton won't be in the hall of fame?

Ray Mancini was inducted into the hall of fame this year and he retired with a record of 29-5 and NEVER beat a top fighter! When all is said and done, Floyd might end up beating several prime hall of famers. The history is yet to be written.

[Dudley]

Mayweather was a slight favourite in the fight. Fact.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...op-five-fights

Oh was he??? my bad... . . .

You guys are so smaret...smmaart...smarreht....Special doe.

To pundits he was, hence why the fight was made, to insiders he wasn't.

DEAL WITH IT!

[VG_Addict]

Mayweather's secret is his reach advantage coupled with his speed. He has freakish long arms for his size. The only people he fought that had equal arm length. Dela Hoya and Judah. Longer arms Mosley.

An interesting way to think about a mayweather fight would be if mayweather didn't have a reach advantage how would he fare against clottey, Paul Williams. Etc...

FYI Corrales had real short arms but was tall. Mayweather smoked him

LOL @ thinking Clottey would have had a chance against Floyd. Clottey is one of the few fighters whose output is even lower than Floyd's.

[ruedboy]

Mayweather's secret is his reach advantage coupled with his speed. He has freakish long arms for his size. The only people he fought that had equal arm length. Dela Hoya and Judah. Longer arms Mosley.

An interesting way to think about a mayweather fight would be if mayweather didn't have a reach advantage how would he fare against clottey, Paul Williams. Etc...

FYI Corrales had real short arms but was tall. Mayweather smoked him

You make a good point. What most people don't realize is that FM rarely fought a legitimate welterweight. Guerrero, Hatton, Maidana and Pacquiao were fighters who fought most of their careers at lighter weights. That leaves an overmatched Victor Ortiz an over the hill Shane Mosely and Zab Judah, a guy who lost every time he stepped up in class.
Its not Floyd's fault that he faced mediocre competition, but he shouldn't get cedit for it either

[stefl14]

I detest Floyd and am the first to call him out on stuff. However, he is one of the best fighters ever, and to criticize him on these grounds is ridiculous. He's never been an underdog precisely because he's so great. He's fought most of the top guys throughout his career. For Floyd to be an underdog he'd have to fight someone much larger than himself. You don't have to beat someone you don't belong in the ring with to be one of the greatest.

[VG_Addict]

You make a good point. What most people don't realize is that FM rarely fought a legitimate welterweight. Guerrero, Hatton, Maidana and Pacquiao were fighters who fought most of their careers at lighter weights. That leaves an overmatched Victor Ortiz an over the hill Shane Mosely and Zab Judah, a guy who lost every time he stepped up in class.
Its not Floyd's fault that he faced mediocre competition, but he shouldn't get cedit for it either

It's more like his competition was mediocre compared to him.

[ruedboy]

It's more like his competition was mediocre compared to him.

I don't see it like that. Floyd's competition at welter was mediocre in any era.

[FLYBOY]

Dude, corrales was the favorite going into the fight. Did you forget?

No, he was not.

[FLYBOY]

The point of this thread was to find out if Floyd ever fought someone who is as good as him. Someone who can challenge Floyd so we could figure out where to rate him.

Guys like Ali, SRL, SRR, have all been underdogs, and they came out victorious even against the odds. That's what makes them ATG's.

With Floyd, we have never seen him fight an opponent who was a favourite to win. The only guy who comes close is Coralles. That's it. Out of 50 fights, just one fight that's a close fight on paper.

DLH, Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao - he fought them all when they were out of their primes.

And then you have folks like Gurrero, Berto, JMM (when he was the much smaller guy)- what was the point of fighting these clowns? These were wasteful fights for Floyd.

All I was trying to say was this: Floyd has never fought a man equal to him or better than him. It's true that Floyd is really good so he would be the obvious favourite in most fights, but there have been many occasions where he could have picked his opponents while they were still in their primes or opponents who could pose a threat to him (Khan, or GGG at 160)

[Philantro]

Al Haymon and Floyd have consistently avoided the three best fighters since 2007:

The three best were avoided in 2007
1.Antonio Margarito at 147lbs
2.Paul Williams at 147lbs
3.Miguel Cotto at 147lbs

The three best were avoided in 2008
1.Paul Williams at 147lbs
2.Antonio Margarito at 147lbs
3.Miguel Cotto at 147lbs

The three best were avoided in 2009
1.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs
2.Paul Williams at 147-154lbs
3.Miguel Cotto at 147lbs

The three best were avoided in 2010
1.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs
2.Paul Williams at 147-154lbs
3.Sergio Martinez at 154lbs

The three best were avoided in 2011
1.Sergio Martinez at 154lbs
2.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs
3.Erislandy Lara at 154lbs

The three best were avoided in 2012
1.Sergio Martinez at 154lbs
2.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs
3.Erislandy Lara at 154lbs

The three best were avoided in 2013
1.Sergio Martinez at 154lbs
2.Erislandy Lara at 154lbs
3.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs

The three best are avoided in 2014
1.Gennady Golovkin at 154lbs
2.Erislandy Lara at 154lbs
3.Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs

NSB goes full ****** when it comes to Floyd Mayweather. I mean look at this. You see posts like this daily and its hard to distinguish between troll posts and people who are so delusional that they believe their own BS.

And this guy could be the most knowledgeable boxing fan out there. But the topic of Floyd Mayweather turns Bert Sugar to Spoon23 for some reason.

How can you have Lara there for 4 years. He didn't beat Trout until 2013 and didn't fight Canelo until 2014

Erislandy Lara has been there since the beginning of July 2011, when he fought Paul Williams. Here is an example, from March 2012, of the best fighters Floyd could have fought 2011-2012:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11936332&postcount=18

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