Who is the closest fighter ever to being perfect?

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  • imperial1
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    #31
    Originally posted by darius45
    What else would he need to rely on though? If he just retired in his prime... then people would never say he wasn't developed enough technically.
    No I hear you .. The guy was a once in a lifetime fighter

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    • DumpkinsPlus5
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      #32
      Srr, srl, rjj, fmj

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      • soul_survivor
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        #33
        why are people saying RJJ or Lopez? Were those guys ever tested against truly great fighters while the fighters were in their prime? How do we know how good they really were?

        Based on attributes (tested against the best), how can there really be an answer beyond Ali or Robinson. Both guys had tremendous speed, both were athletic, ATG chins, punch selection, punch accuracy, power (people underrate Ali's punch power) and both were pleasing on the eye in different ways. Robinson was so fluid in attack, Ali so brilliant in defense. Both guys had their mettle tested against the very best.

        Leonard, Hagler, Armstrong and possibly Pep are runners up.

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        • Caught Square
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          #34
          Originally posted by richardt
          Leonard is the reason I became a boxing fan. Watching him fight was more than just watching a fight, it was watching an event. NO LIVING BOXER ON THE PLANET right now throws combinations like Leonard did in his prime. The closest since is Roy Jones.
          Yeah he had great combinations but what impresses me even more is when he has someone hurt he doesn't forget to mix it up to the body, a lot of guys get too carried away head hunting when they hurt someone and the opportunity fades away.

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          • Dean_Razorback
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            #35
            carlos monzon

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            • Caught Square
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              #36
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              why are people saying RJJ or Lopez? Were those guys ever tested against truly great fighters while the fighters were in their prime? How do we know how good they really were?

              Based on attributes (tested against the best), how can there really be an answer beyond Ali or Robinson. Both guys had tremendous speed, both were athletic, ATG chins, punch selection, punch accuracy, power (people underrate Ali's punch power) and both were pleasing on the eye in different ways. Robinson was so fluid in attack, Ali so brilliant in defense. Both guys had their mettle tested against the very best.

              Leonard, Hagler, Armstrong and possibly Pep are runners up.
              Ali's strengths that you mentioned were one a million for a heavyweight but he had no inside game or body attack so can he still be considered near perfect?

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              • VG_Addict
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                #37
                Originally posted by Caught Square
                Ali's strengths that you mentioned were one a million for a heavyweight but he had no inside game or body attack so can he still be considered near perfect?
                TS is asking, who is the most complete fighter, right?

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                • Caught Square
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  TS is asking, who is the most complete fighter, right?
                  Yeah but i'm saying with those two glaring deficiencies in his game I doubt he is the most complete fighter despite having great strengths for a heavyweight.

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                  • VG_Addict
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                    #39
                    In modern times, Ward is probably the most complete fighter.

                    Hagler and Duran were pretty complete too.

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                    • LomaUsykKlichko
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                      #40
                      Lomachenko with power

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