Do you think Pac regrets fighting Mayweather? Or...

[Razcal26]

Perhaps. But it's not like Mayweather completely demolished Pacquiao. Mayweather got an ugly win. Both fighters embarrassed themselves (lowest career punch output for either fighter). I'm sure that Floyd dreamed of a more epic win. The money was banked the minute round 1 started, they could've fought a legacy-capping fight, or give us a nervous chess match.

Point being, if this was Arum's masterplan, he way overestimated Floyd's dominance. Losing like that to Floyd back in '09 wouldn't have hurt pac's career in the slightest. He wasn't claiming TBE status, nor is it why people came to see him fight. He built his fan base on being an exciting fighter. He would have moved on and had many more exciting, lucrative fights.
Mayweather's M.O. was making exciting fighters boring (plus, he produced and starred in his own reality show)

I disagree with that.

It wasn't an ugly win. It was complete domination and so one-sided that the people who claim the fight was close struggle to name more than 2 rounds that Pacquiao won. It was that one sided. Everyone in boxing knew what Floyd was going to do, every discussion about the fight was "What was Manny going to do to beat Floyd?" Not the other way around and we saw that Manny couldn't do a thing.

Losing to Floyd back in 2009 would have been worse. Manny was firmly establishing himself as PPV attraction. He was constantly fighting in Vegas and selling out. Arum was making a ton of money off him and promoting as the "Anti-Floyd", "the one who could beat him". If Floyd had fought him back then and beat him, what would Arum and Pacquiao have to go on next? The hype would have been completely killed. The entire premise on what they were promoting Manny on would have been shut down, what next? More rematches with Marquez? Fight Bradley? Who would Arum have as the cash cow? We already saw what Manny's PPV buys were against Bradley, Rios and Algeiri.

He used Manny. This why they can't even agree on when his "injury" took place or who Manny is fighting next. It just looks ridiculous. Now Arum wants to feed him to Crawford. If Arum really cared about what Manny wants, he would do everything in his power to get him a rematch with Floyd.

[al-Xander]

****** question. Why would you regret a fight you knew you can win? And he did.

[Chrismart]

I wouldn't of thought so.
With the money that was on the table, i think he would of regretted it if the fight had never happened.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm sure he doesn't love that he lost the fight, but he gots 150,000,000 reasons to feel better. Plus Jinkee probably let him do butt stuff that night to make him feel better.

[Spoon23]

****** question. Why would you regret a fight you knew you can win? And he did.

Exactly.

He won with one arm. Floyd got a gifted win.

So no regrets.

[nveleven]

I disagree with that.

It wasn't an ugly win. It was complete domination and so one-sided that the people who claim the fight was close struggle to name more than 2 rounds that Pacquiao won. It was that one sided. Everyone in boxing knew what Floyd was going to do, every discussion about the fight was "What was Manny going to do to beat Floyd?" Not the other way around and we saw that Manny couldn't do a thing.

That last sentence makes it sounds like manny was being held to a higher standard than Floyd. So, Floyd gets credit for being dominant if he has his career-low punch output (CAREER LOW) does just enough to win by decision? In a fight that's billed as Fight of the Century? With the whole world watching?

Agree to disagree. How many house parties emptied out that night with fight fans saying: "man, Floyd kicked the **** out of manny!". It's more like: "man, I paid $100 to see a fight, and I had to sit through that boring ****". People would've been happy if Floyd had kicked the **** out of manny (like he did to Canelo). Just like with Marquez KO of Pac. They'd love to hate it (I know I did). But they'd love it nonetheless. Instead, these guys fought each other nervously, and this favored Floyd's style.
This was an ugly Floyd win--similar in stature to his win over Oscar.

Losing to Floyd back in 2009 would have been worse. Manny was firmly establishing himself as PPV attraction. He was constantly fighting in Vegas and selling out. Arum was making a ton of money off him and promoting as the "Anti-Floyd", "the one who could beat him". If Floyd had fought him back then and beat him, what would Arum and Pacquiao have to go on next? The hype would have been completely killed. The entire premise on what they were promoting Manny on would have been shut down, what next? More rematches with Marquez? Fight Bradley? Who would Arum have as the cash cow? We already saw what Manny's PPV buys were against Bradley, Rios and Algeiri.

This is so off-base. Manny would've had plenty of great match ups in front of him after Floyd in '09. He could've gone back down to 140, and made some exciting fights there. The only thing stopping any exciting fight from there on would've been promoters. Pac would've moved on from Floyd. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

He used Manny. This why they can't even agree on when his "injury" took place or who Manny is fighting next. It just looks ridiculous. Now Arum wants to feed him to Crawford. If Arum really cared about what Manny wants, he would do everything in his power to get him a rematch with Floyd.

I agree with you here on both fronts.

Edit: Whoops! Didn't realize it was going to put my response in the original quote. My bad.

[Razcal26]

That last sentence makes it sounds like manny was being held to a higher standard than Floyd. So, Floyd gets credit for being dominant if he has his career-low punch output (CAREER LOW) does just enough to win by decision? In a fight that's billed as Fight of the Century? With the whole world watching?

Agree to disagree. How many house parties emptied out that night with fight fans saying: "man, Floyd kicked the **** out of manny!". It's more like: "man, I paid $100 to see a fight, and I had to sit through that boring ****". People would've been happy if Floyd had kicked the **** out of manny (like he did to Canelo). Just like with Marquez KO of Pac. They'd love to hate it (I know I did). But they'd love it nonetheless. Instead, these guys fought each other nervously, and this favored Floyd's style.
This was an ugly Floyd win--similar in stature to his win over Oscar.

This is so off-base. Manny would've had plenty of great match ups in front of him after Floyd in '09. He could've gone back down to 140, and made some exciting fights there. The only thing stopping any exciting fight from there on would've been promoters. Pac would've moved on from Floyd. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

I agree with you here on both fronts.

Edit: Whoops! Didn't realize it was going to put my response in the original quote. My bad.

Don't worry, I got you.

Manny was held to the standard ALL of Floyds other opponents were held to, "What can you do to beat Floyd?" They said the same with Canelo, Cotto, Maidana, Oscar etc. Manny was not held to a higher standard at all, in fact he has been given a pass for being out-thrown AND out-landed by Floyd in the fight, yet coming into the fight it was all about Manny's speed and all these punches he was gonna land on Floyd and look what happened.....

It wasn't about Floyd kicking his ass and you know it. Stop trying to paint Floyd as this ass kicking fighter when EVERYONE knows he hasn't been that in YEARS. People started to call Floyd boring because of the simple fact that they were too busy listening to the media push behind Manny and Floyd completely neutralized him and some how that's Floyds fault? Makes no sense.

People were complaining after the Canelo fight as well. Saying it was too one-sided and that Floyd didn't have to do much to get the win. Again, we ALL knew what Floyd was going to do, but people bought into the belief that Canelo was going to do XYZ just like Manny.

You just proved my point. Pacquiao may have wanted to go down but would Arum have let him? Would Arum have continued to push him and promote the hell out of him after losing to Floyd? Look at what he's doing to Manny right now? The fights may have been exciting but the interest would not have been there, you know that.

Manny was used...... and continued to be used.

[clmags12]

IMO Manny should regret the timing of the fight. It was too late in Manny's career, his high activity/output was his main strength against Floyd. Manny def would not outbox Floyd in 09 or now.

And pls I'm not here to argue why they didn't fight earlier.

[Larry the boss]

Man got the biggest pay day of his career,and is a sure fire hall of famer....**** does he have to regret?

[CatchAndShoot]

Let's be real. Floyd didn't really "beat" Pac like he does his other opponents. He didn't land that many effective shots, and I truly think Pac got robbed a few rounds, because of the Floyd nostalgia.

Pac didn't get credit for a lot of his landed punches, and Floyd didn't look like a world beater at all. He won a lot of rounds, but they weren't like, "oh man, he definitely won that round". It was more like, "OK, he landed some body jabs while Pac didn't do ****, Floyd got that one".

And really, it made Floyd look like the smaller man in a machismo sense. He was running from a guy that was probably 10-15 lbs. lighter than him that night.

It looked like a smaller kid chasing after the clearly bigger kid the in a fight, and the bigger kid just does the bare minimum to steal that round.

And Floyd missed a ton of shots in this fight, and I think there's a stat that he was the most inaccurate in his career against Pac. Yeah, Pac looked ineffective in some of the rounds, but so did Floyd.

And in the majority of the fight, Floyd clinched like crazy anytime either fighter near one another. It made Floyd look really weak and bad for that.