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  • Wicky
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    #31
    Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
    Hearn acknowledged that HBO said it would be a PPV fight...just like Froch wanted.
    It would be in the UK...just like Froch wanted. He would've got the lions share of the money and he chose to retire.
    He talked all that **** and when it was time to get down, he chose to retire.

    Froch was the one knocking on that door.
    Evidence?.
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    • Jubei
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      I'm pretty sure DeGale vs. Groves for the British Title when they were both prospects did more buys than that
      I see, you are pretty sure. English PPVs which are 15 pounds.

      In fact you got nothing. You are knocked out. Its over.

      No more arguments, just some wishful thinking on your side left.

      I am done with you. Was even easier than GGG would knock out Froch.

      And i realized I already spent too much of my precious time on this site.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #33
        Originally posted by Jubei
        DeGale the fight fans want? DeGale the bigger draw?

        I mean look at the top comments, its funny.



        And then GGG



        Its pretty clear what the fans want to see.
        ... 13,900 'likes' for the GGG fight against 7,800 (DeGale)... I would like to see the "demographics" of these 'likes'...

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #34
          Originally posted by Jubei
          I see, you are pretty sure. English PPVs which are 15 pounds.
          Yeah and we're talking about which fight would do better on English PPV

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          • Eastcoast
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            #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            ****phobic? Lol....

            Facts and numbers? GGG vs Murray for the world title drew less viewers than DeGale vs bums in leisure centres on free TV in the UK.

            Where were all these amazing Facebook fans to watch GGG?
            Stop. DeGale is an undercard fighter in the UK. Comparing apples to apples he hardly outdrew Golovkin on Channel 5.
            • 01/03/2014 James DeGale-Gevorg Khatchikian - 810,000 (Channel 5 #25)
            • 21/02/2015 Martin Murray v Gennady Golovkin - 740,000 (Channel 5 #29)


            Now take into context that DeGale was a UK gold-medalist who had been on UK tv numerous times before and Golovkin was making his prime-time debut and that Murray/Golovkin was happening outside the country, DeGale should've been way ahead of Golovkin. Hardly a bigger draw. His boring style vs Golovkin's, fans would flock to Froch/Golovkin over Froch/DeGale.

            As for money, Golovkin brings HBO but does DeGale bring Haymon? If Haymon buys the fight for the PBC in the UK, then that could be bigger money, but then again Golovkn/Froch would sell more US ppv than Golovkin/Lemieux to the extent that I think Hearn & Froch know Golovkin brings more money.

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            • j0zef
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              #36
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... 13,900 'likes' for the GGG fight against 7,800 (DeGale)... I would like to see the "demographics" of these 'likes'...
              Not the best predictor in the world, but here's Google's Interest over Time with the locations restricted to the UK:



              And here's worldwide:

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #37
                Originally posted by Eastcoast
                Stop. DeGale is an undercard fighter in the UK. Comparing apples to apples he hardly outdrew Golovkin on Channel 5.
                • 01/03/2014 James DeGale-Gevorg Khatchikian - 810,000 (Channel 5 #25)
                • 21/02/2015 Martin Murray v Gennady Golovkin - 740,000 (Channel 5 #29)


                Now take into context that DeGale was a UK gold-medalist who had been on UK tv numerous times before and Golovkin was making his prime-time debut and that Murray/Golovkin was happening outside the country, DeGale should've been way ahead of Golovkin. Hardly a bigger draw. His boring style vs Golovkin's, fans would flock to Froch/Golovkin over Froch/DeGale.

                As for money, Golovkin brings HBO but does DeGale bring Haymon? If Haymon buys the fight for the PBC in the UK, then that could be bigger money, but then again Golovkn/Froch would sell more US ppv than Golovkin/Lemieux to the extent that I think Hearn & Froch know Golovkin brings more money.
                I do take all that into account which is why Froch-DeGale is bigger than Froch-GGG in the UK.

                Duh. You're just making the argument stronger.

                Are HBO going to run an afternoon PPV?

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                • Eastcoast
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Wicky
                  Evidence?.
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                  Tom Loeffler - Oct 15, 2015
                  I don’t think Froch is going to come out of retirement, even though a fight against Golovkin would likely make him big money. I’m not sure if it would be as much as Froch made against George Groves, because Golovkin would obviously be looking to get a bigger cut of the loot. But the fight would be on HBO pay-per-view in the States, and on Sky Box Office in the UK, so the money would be very good. I can’t imagine why Froch wouldn’t want to come back to get that payday.
                  http://www.boxin gnews24.com/2015/10/froch-fight-still-interests-ggg-says-loeffler/

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    Stop. DeGale is an undercard fighter in the UK. Comparing apples to apples he hardly outdrew Golovkin on Channel 5.
                    • 01/03/2014 James DeGale-Gevorg Khatchikian - 810,000 (Channel 5 #25)
                    • 21/02/2015 Martin Murray v Gennady Golovkin - 740,000 (Channel 5 #29)


                    Now take into context that DeGale was a UK gold-medalist who had been on UK tv numerous times before and Golovkin was making his prime-time debut and that Murray/Golovkin was happening outside the country, DeGale should've been way ahead of Golovkin. Hardly a bigger draw. His boring style vs Golovkin's, fans would flock to Froch/Golovkin over Froch/DeGale.
                    Really? With his "boring style" fighting a bum in a leisure centre?

                    Whereas Golovkin was fighting a Brit for a world title. Why didn't the viewers "flock" to that fight?

                    Bottom line - casual fans in this country have no idea who GGG is. I know cos I live here.

                    I can always gauge it by which of my friends (none of whom are boxing fans) start asking about a fight. I've had a few messages about Klitschko-Fury but never any about when is Froch going to fight GGG.

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                    • Eastcoast
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I do take all that into account which is why Froch-DeGale is bigger than Froch-GGG in the UK.

                      Duh. You're just making the argument stronger.

                      Are HBO going to run an afternoon PPV?
                      I'm not making it an any stronger case than it already is. DeGale should be more popular than he is, but he's not. It's why DeGale & Hearn would bend over backwards to get another fight with Groves.

                      If Golovkin/Murray had taken place in the UK we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now. If Lee beats Saunders, and Lee/Golovkin happens early next year in the UK, it won't even be a comparison. And that's if DeGale gets by Bute. UK fight fans will take to Golovkin, where as they've already passed on DeGale.

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