All this Ward-GGG mess is Mayweather-Pacquiao all over again

[Chuckguy]

He's not asking GGG to face him at 172. I shouldn't really have to state the obvious.

Ok so if Ward was serious then he would be making his comeback at 168 not 175 right?

[Chuckguy]

Well Mannys team did try 140 first..so lets just wait and see

Larry what's up with all the belts? He is a 5 division champ yet there are like 20 WBC belts? A plain to me bro thanks

[Reigning Champ]

Ok so if Ward was serious then he would be making his comeback at 168 not 175 right?

The move is still being considered, and it's also because GGG doesn't want to fight him at 168.

[SplitSecond]

De La Hoya vs Bernard Hopkins
Miguel Cotto vs Sergio Martinez
Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins

Besides the worrying commonality of younger men taking on old men, these aren't big fights? You think this is comparable, put Golovkin-Ward in that list.

Lets jot some more commonalities. None of those guys were coming off a hiatus, the guys coming up had fought most of the guys at their weight, the only way to move on was to move up they, and all had more of a following than Golovkin/Ward, except maybe Calzaghe.

[Jubei]

Well you can compare GGG with Pacquiao

Exciting, humble, two real champions in and outside of the ring.

Ward has alot in common with Mayweather.

Delusional, egocentric and only fights with all advantages on their side.

Big difference though is Floyd still had a huge following, Ward has 13 fans and a couple GGG haters supporting him.

[Jubei]

The move is still being considered, and it's also because GGG doesn't want to fight him at 168.

Ward had the chance to fight GGG on Ward's terms and at 168 in 2013 and Ward turned down the fight.

Times change, priorities change. Ward was a big name in 2013. Fighting two times in 3 years and those two names being Edwin Rodriguez and Paul Smith didn't help his case.

Also fighting at 172, even though he had 2 years to make 168 shows alot where Ward is moving. He will retire anyway soon. Who wants to see him? The 10 GGG haters on this forum dont even wanna see Ward, he almost has no fans.

Ward had the chance and blew it, now he is an irrelevant pretender dragging 40 year old columbian plumbers to 175 and getting handpicked opponents rejected by the NSAC.

[-PBP-]

Besides the worrying commonality of younger men taking on old men, these aren't big fights? You think this is comparable, put Golovkin-Ward in that list.

Lets jot some more commonalities. None of those guys were coming off a hiatus, the guys coming up had fought most of the guys at their weight, the only way to move on was to move up they, and all had more of a following than Golovkin/Ward, except maybe Calzaghe.

First we have to ask, how do Ward's HBO ratings and live gates compare to Hopkins and Martinez? Idk the answer to that question but I'm assuming similar.

Now let's compare GGGs star power to Cotto, Oscar and Zags. I don't think he's bigger than any of them.

Now let's compare risk. Ward is perceived to be in his prime (although his injuries make me question if he's slipping), Martinez was shot (but we didn't know that until after the fact) and Hopkins was the man against Oscar and still performing at the world class level against Zags.

Now let's look at alternatives. Oscar could sell against anybody. Cotto passed on a bigger $$$ Canelo fight and Zags had possibly Froch or options.

I think these situations are comparable. The only difference is Ward is perceived as the riskiest move which is why it isn't happening.

[Chuckguy]

The move is still being considered, and it's also because GGG doesn't want to fight him at 168.

Lmfao ok bro if you say so

[HeroBando]

First we have to ask, how do Ward's HBO ratings and live gates compare to Hopkins and Martinez? Idk the answer to that question but I'm assuming similar.

Now let's compare GGGs star power to Cotto, Oscar and Zags. I don't think he's bigger than any of them.

Now let's compare risk. Ward is perceived to be in his prime (although his injuries make me question if he's slipping), Martinez was shot (but we didn't know that until after the fact) and Hopkins was the man against Oscar and still performing at the world class level against Zags.

Now let's look at alternatives. Oscar could sell against anybody. Cotto passed on a bigger $$$ Canelo fight and Zags had possibly Froch or options.

I think these situations are comparable. The only difference is Ward is perceived as the riskiest move which is why it isn't happening.

There were lopsided purse splits and catchweights for both Oscar and Cotto. Joe was no A side in the US

[Derranged]

Well, I hope so. But something tells me it won't happen.

If they were keen, GGG's team wouldn't have suggested having the fight at 164.

We'll see what happens.

However, something stinks. GGG with the catch weights and Ward with his injuries and management issues. I don't know what to think.