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  • SugarRaRobinson
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    #321
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    You provided evidence that Degale mentioned Wards name some years back when Degale was irrelevant.

    So, yea..... you totally pulled it out of your ass and out of context.
    Who u got in that Canelo/Cotto fight ?

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    • M Bison
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      #322
      Gonzalez now added to Wards list of ducked opponents, not looking good for little W at all.

      Y.Gonzalez
      G.Golovkin
      A.Stevenson
      C.Froch (Rematch in England)
      M.Kessler (Rematch in Denmark)
      L.Bute
      A.Dirrell

      ALL those names, every single one of them that's who Ward has ducked I could add DeGale and the other current champs but I wont, I'm keeping it real Ward won a SMW belt when he weighed in at 172lbs against Paul Smith...
      What excuses do you Ward fans have to make to defend this guy?
      Imagine the outrage If GGG wins a MW belt at 164lbs, I'm sorry but its just all so funny its beyond hypocritical from these guys who stick up for him.

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      • Chrismart
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        #323
        [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/13wcoOZFjhS10Y/*****.gif[/IMG]

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        • SugarRaRobinson
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          #324
          Originally posted by Red Cyclone
          Gonzalez now added to Wards list of ducked opponents, not looking good for little W at all.

          Y.Gonzalez
          G.Golovkin
          A.Stevenson
          C.Froch (Rematch in England)
          M.Kessler (Rematch in Denmark)
          L.Bute
          A.Dirrell

          ALL those names, every single one of them that's who Ward has ducked I could add DeGale and the other current champs but I wont, I'm keeping it real Ward won a SMW belt when he weighed in at 172lbs against Paul Smith...
          What excuses do you Ward fans have to make to defend this guy?
          Imagine the outrage If GGG wins a MW belt at 164lbs, I'm sorry but its just all so funny its beyond hypocritical from these guys who stick up for him.
          Ok , I get it , anyone ward hasn't fought thus far , he's ducking . Yeah , ok nit-wit . If u haven't noticed , Ward doesn't seem to wanna fight any top guys at 175 for his first fight at that weight . The 2nd fight will prolly be a Gonzo caliber fighter .

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            #325
            Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
            Ok , I get it , anyone ward hasn't fought thus far , he's ducking . Yeah , ok nit-wit . If u haven't noticed , Ward doesn't seem to wanna fight any top guys at 175 for his first fight at that weight . The 2nd fight will prolly be a Gonzo caliber fighter .
            Little W needs to step up

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              #326
              Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
              Ok , I get it , anyone ward hasn't fought thus far , he's ducking . Yeah , ok nit-wit . If u haven't noticed , Ward doesn't seem to wanna fight any top guys at 175 for his first fight at that weight . The 2nd fight will prolly be a Gonzo caliber fighter .
              So why should GGG fight the top guy at 168 for his first fight?

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #327
                Originally posted by Boxingwizard
                Despite losing to Groves four years ago, DeGale is on the rise and is now considerded the best SMW and Groves is on the decline. Yeah I get you that DeGale has Groves problems, and to clear things up it was Groves back in May 2015 who said that he would fight DeGale if he beats Dirrell. What did Groves do? He fought Jack instead. As a matter fact DeGale's team has been desperately trying to get Groves back in the ring with DeGale again, and Groves doesn't want to budge.

                I think it's fkn dumb to go ape **** and assume I'm smearing Ward. Do I have to explain myself over and over again? I just don't understand Ward's complaints in this article. Is he satisfied or unsatisfied about the move to LHW? If he doesn't like the move to LHW there are certainly contenders in the SMW division that he hasn't fought yet.

                EDIT: And yes DeGale lost to Groves, that doesn't change the fact that DeGale even during 2014 was a top 5 SMW and certainly a worthy opponent to Ward despite what you think. I say he's been avoiding him because DeGale has been pushing for a fight with Ward.
                Ok, some fair points there, but just look at the bold.

                " Degale..... is now considered the best SMW "

                NOW Degale is relevant, but before Dirrell he was not.

                Groves had a better chance of landing that fight.

                Degale could have had that fight, except he had Groves problems.

                Groves could have had that fight, except he had Froch problems.

                Sorry, no offense meant..... just sick of all that coward/ducker rubbish.

                99% of that stuff is horse****.

                " DeGale even during 2014 was a top 5 SMW and certainly a worthy opponent to Ward despite what you think ".....

                Your opinion that Degale - Groves problems and all - was worthy, is just that, your opinion..... and that opinion will not mandate Ward to Degale.

                And btw, during that time, Degale STILL had Groves problems.

                I have NEVER heard anyone refer to that situation as a duck.... as I said earlier, that just seems like desperation to sling mud at Ward imho..... it's certainly not an honest evaluation of what happened.

                So Ward had the opportunity to take that fight, but chose not to...... so what..... Golovkin could have fought Ward/Lara/Cotto/Canelo...... but he chose not to.

                I dont hear a lot of people referring to those ducks, as ducks.

                And btw, ALL of those guys would be Golovkins best win..... and yet Degale would not be Wards best win, or even close.

                It seems that Ward is starting to contract mayweatheritis..... the expectations on him seem to be so much higher than on everyone else.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #328
                  Originally posted by Boxingwizard
                  I never said it was fear, that's what you thought, hence I never used the word ducking. What I really meant was that Ward doesn't want to fight DeGale, in the same manner that Ward doesn't want to fight Dirrell brothers for whatever reason.
                  Fair call, sorry, maybe I overreacted.

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                  • Raonic
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                    #329
                    The hell is this guy talking about? Guys get pressured to move up all the time.

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                    • Raonic
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                      #330
                      Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce
                      So why should GGG fight the top guy at 168 for his first fight?
                      God forbid GGG fights a lesser opponent first at 168 but it's okay if Ward has 1-2 fights before Kovalev.

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