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  • SilverMiles
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    What's a Top Fighter?

    I think we should all come to official agreement in this thread to what should be considered a "Top Fighter" so we can properly rate the boxers among ourselves.

    I use to think anyone rated in the Top Ten in a division was top fighter but I constantly see these fighters refereed too as bums.

    For example I remember people constantly saying Canelo beat no top fighters until he beat Trout, but I clearly remember Ryan Rhodes being ranked #3 at Jr. Middleweight.

    I see guys call Sakio Bika a top fighter but call Sam Soliman a bum even though they accomplished about the same and even traded wins against each other. The only difference being Bika was shown on American TV more.

    So is a top fighter a top ten fighter, a top 5 fighter, a top ten p4p fighter, a guy shown on HBO 3+ times, or a guy that is promoted well?
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    You and your subliminal threads. Every thread you make is whining about not giving GGG credit. He needs to move up and challenge himself and he has beaten no top fighters. Get over it.

    If your a fan of his just enjoy his fights and stop trying to make us all lower our expectations of what we want to see from the best fighters in the sport.

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    • BrometheusBob.
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      #3
      Basically a top fighter is any guy you want to give your favorite fighter credit for beating, or your favorite fighter himself.

      That's how it is on NSB.

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        #4
        Originally posted by SilverMiles
        I think we should all come to official agreement in this thread to what should be considered a "Top Fighter" so we can properly rate the boxers among ourselves.

        I use to think anyone rated in the Top Ten in a division was top fighter but I constantly see these fighters refereed too as bums.

        For example I remember people constantly saying Canelo beat no top fighters until he beat Trout, but I clearly remember Ryan Rhodes being ranked #3 at Jr. Middleweight.

        I see guys call Sakio Bika a top fighter but call Sam Soliman a bum even though they accomplished about the same and even traded wins against each other. The only difference being Bika was shown on American TV more.

        So is a top fighter a top ten fighter, a top 5 fighter, a top ten p4p fighter, a guy shown on HBO 3+ times, or a guy that is promoted well?
        Good luck lol. I've heard about every fighter worth mentioning called a bum, over hyped, or *insert expletive here*, on these boards. Hell according to these boards, Ring, Box Rec, every sanctioning bodies rankings, every belt, and most champions are trash. I often wonder how a lot of these people even enjoy watching boxing.

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        • SilverMiles
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          #5
          Originally posted by PBP.
          You and your subliminal threads. Every thread you make is whining about not giving GGG credit. He needs to move up and challenge himself and he has beaten no top fighters. Get over it.

          If your a fan of his just enjoy his fights and stop trying to make us all lower our expectations of what we want to see from the best fighters in the sport.
          Answer the question and stop your crying. You fanboys are starting to become embarrassing.

          Matter a fact just leave the thread. This is a question aimed at true boxing minds.

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            #6
            Originally posted by SilverMiles
            Answer the question and stop your crying. You fanboys are starting to become embarrassing.

            Matter a fact just leave the thread. This is a question aimed at true boxing minds.
            We all know what a top fighter is. What is the definition of "top"? highest in position, rank, or degree.. If you beat the #1 guy (highest position, rank or degree) you beat a top fighter. You can't change the definition of "top" just to improve GGG's resume.

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            • OnePunch
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              #7
              Originally posted by BrometheusBob
              Basically a top fighter is any guy you want to give your favorite fighter credit for beating, or your favorite fighter himself.

              That's how it is on NSB.
              Exactly. And a bum is a fighter that could be potentially be called a "top fighter" by others, but had the misfortune of losing to the guy you hate, thus forever rendering him as a bum, tomato can, etc. lol

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              • SilverMiles
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                #8
                Originally posted by PBP.
                We all know what a top fighter is. What is the definition of "top"? highest in position, rank, or degree.. If you beat the #1 guy (highest position, rank or degree) you beat a top fighter. You can't change the definition of "top" just to improve GGG's resume.
                So what you are saying is that top fighter is #1 in the division. So basically someone like Wladomir hasn't beaten a top fighter since he's been champion?

                And basically most fighters only beat 1 or 2 top fighters in their entire career?

                Was Carlos Baldomir a top fighter. I mean he was #1 for a brief time but was also very limited?

                I'm just curious in knowing.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  So what you are saying is that top fighter is #1 in the division. So basically someone like Wladomir hasn't beaten a top fighter since he's been champion?

                  And basically most fighters only beat 1 or 2 top fighters in their entire career?

                  Was Carlos Baldomir a top fighter. I mean he was #1 for a brief time but was also very limited?

                  I'm just curious in knowing.
                  Wlad beat Povetkin (#1).....Baldomir is an aberration. Upsets happen in boxing. Props to him for his accomplishment.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    I think it depends on the person what a top fighter is. And good luck getting everyone to agree with that. Pretty sure there is a solid segment of boxing fans who think there are like 8 top fighters in boxing.

                    Personally I feel like anyone in the top 1% of their division (usually the top 15 or so guys) should be considered top or elite level guys.

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