Comments Thread For: Roach: Canelo Can Be Broken Down, He Fatigues

[Shadoww702]

First of, yea he gasses out. Won't matter, Cotto isn't gonna win.

Cotto has not improved under roach. It's bs. Cotto list to Trout. Canelo beat trout.

Canelo will pound Cotto to a TKO if not KO.

However, Canelo does gas out.

From 172+ to 175, Canelo drops 20 pounds to make weight. That hurts anyone's conditioning.

Which is what I don't get. They think MW is weak, draining hurts him, but he still does it.

Oh, that's right. It's not MW, it's 155.

I pretty much agree with everything but I bet you $$$$$ if GGG only fought 2x a year he would be draping 20lbs to get down to 160. GGG has the perfect system/diet to maximize his weight and size. Everyone else he fought in the amateurs are now at 2-3 weight classes higher than he is.

[icha]

Honestly, Freddy has a bit of a point here. Canelo exerts a lot of energy and sometimes slows. I'm hoping his trainers get real serious about his cardio because in a couple years he won't have youth to rely on for endurance. He looked better against Angulo. Crisp the whole time. And, fairly decent against Lara. Kirkland tired him out quickly and I think that was a matter of Canelo not breathing properly when blocking and striking. Got too caught up in the firefight.

you explained perfectly, couldnt have said this any better my self...

[Clegg]

From Roach's talk (which is sometimes intentionally misleading) he seems to be planning for Cotto to weather an early storm and then come on strong.

Cotto would be better off starting aggressive. That's his strength, his A game, that's when he looks incredible at times. Canelo to my eyes is the bigger man and could be hard to back up, but we've seen him be happy to box on the back foot in the past, he did it most of the fight against Rhodes. Cotto has some of the best offensive footwork in the sport, he cuts the ring off (whereas Canelo mostly follows in straight lines) and he closes range and picks his shots well. Not saying he has to push Canelo back or try and stalk him, but if he can't apply his usual pressure style then he should keep things centre ring and look to lead rather than counter.

If Cotto comes out looking to box and move, Canelo will probably edge the round(s) with his jab and basic boxing. Cotto would likely waste energy with too much movement whereas Canelo would be in his comfort zone, meaning Canelo would be the one with more in the tank once the fight intensified. Cotto is not great defensively, he's better than some give him credit for but being on the ropes is a bad place for him in any fight and even when he did ok in the middle rounds vs Pac on the back foot, it's not like he was inflicting any damage, setting traps or walking Pac onto anything meaningful.

Aside from the Kirkland fight, Canelo hasn't gone for the kill early on in any of his biggest or most recent fights, and even though his stamina isn't great, he knows it and paces himself for 12 rounds. If Cotto is going to have the stamina edge by the halfway point he shouldn't be basing his gameplan on Canelo being wasteful or over-aggressive.

[icha]

From Roach's talk (which is sometimes intentionally misleading) he seems to be planning for Cotto to weather an early storm and then come on strong.

Cotto would be better off starting aggressive. That's his strength, his A game, that's when he looks incredible at times. Canelo to my eyes is the bigger man and could be hard to back up, but we've seen him be happy to box on the back foot in the past, he did it most of the fight against Rhodes. Cotto has some of the best offensive footwork in the sport, he cuts the ring off (whereas Canelo mostly follows in straight lines) and he closes range and picks his shots well. Not saying he has to push Canelo back or try and stalk him, but if he can't apply his usual pressure style then he should keep things centre ring and look to lead rather than counter.

If Cotto comes out looking to box and move, Canelo will probably edge the round(s) with his jab and basic boxing. Cotto would likely waste energy with too much movement whereas Canelo would be in his comfort zone, meaning Canelo would be the one with more in the tank once the fight intensified. Cotto is not great defensively, he's better than some give him credit for but being on the ropes is a bad place for him in any fight and even when he did ok in the middle rounds vs Pac on the back foot, it's not like he was inflicting any damage, setting traps or walking Pac onto anything meaningful.

Aside from the Kirkland fight, Canelo hasn't gone for the kill early on in any of his biggest or most recent fights, and even though his stamina isn't great, he knows it and paces himself for 12 rounds. If Cotto is going to have the stamina edge by the halfway point he shouldn't be basing his gameplan on Canelo being wasteful or over-aggressive.

not that i agree with everything, but you made a good unbiased breakdown...

[nivek535]

You meant to say MargaCHEATO because when Team Mosley discovered the illegal wrap plaster MargaCHEATO was Knocked the **** out. LMAO

yea true hahaha

[Progrssive_Jedi]

I pretty much agree with everything but I bet you $$$$$ if GGG only fought 2x a year he would be draping 20lbs to get down to 160. GGG has the perfect system/diet to maximize his weight and size. Everyone else he fought in the amateurs are now at 2-3 weight classes higher than he is.

This is the most original excuse I've heard.

Has GGG fought 4 times a year his entire career. And GGG isn't exactly a big dude. Some of those fighters you are talking about, presumably, are taller than him, and have naturally bigger frames.

Look at Ward, he fought LHW in Olympics, but came out as a MW, then went pretty quickly SMW.

GGG started as a WW in amateurs. A lot of people don't know that.

Regardless, GGG will soon be fight only two to three times a year. And if the Canelo fight happens, he'll be off for 7 months.

But he can stay in shape. That's what many great fighters do.

[doom_specialist]

I'm taking Saul. He's been wanting to fight Cotto for ever. You should of seen his face when Trout stomped Cotto??? He was ringside wearing an I Love Cotto t-shirt rooting his @ss off for Cotto...

Not a bad call at all. I'm just a long time Cotto fan, and I want to see him do what everyone says he can't. Canelo might be the betting favorite, but I think the matchup is close. In any case, we should definitely see how good Canelo's chin really is.

[QballLobo]

How was that stamina last night Roach?