There's a difference between moving up and growing out a division.

[Larry the boss]

Maybe you're not as dumb as that last dummy.
Let's find out.
When was the last time Ward fought at 168?

What does that even mean?? he is the lineal champ and WBA champ at 168 and said he wants the fight at 168....Whats the issue?

[Larry the boss]

Floyd hasn't moved up divisions. He moved up to 154, but the guy he fought in that division wasn't a career 154 fighter. He fought at a CW with Canelo.

Floyd has not taken any risks so will be penalized accordingly when compared to the true ATGs. Floyd says hes not a middleweight so cant fight GGG? Well, Toney wasn't a heavyweight, but did you ever hear im not a heavyweight come from Toneys lips?
Just get on with it Floyd and less of the excuses.

what in the utter ****??

[Larry the boss]

Fawking Larry you are all over the place bro. I lie u dude but seriously you are a fawking ****** in this thread. Bro you didn't address my statement just hid behind 5 weightclasses. So many great boxers have said Floyd never dared to be great by fighting the best. They forgot more boxing than both you and I will ever know.
You bewitching and complaining about how GGG fans are scared for him to move up 8 pounds
But I don hear you complaining about Ward moving up 3 fawking pounds to fight Kovolev right now. You want GGG to move up right now o a weight class and fight the best in that weight class, when was the last time Floyd went up to fight the best at that weight on his first fight?
That's right he never did. But you call him TBE? Ramble on about weight classes and titles. GGG is on his way to be the lineal MW champ he still has two belat to collect.
It's kinda hypocritical of you to bag on titles yet your siggy is of a poosey with all his belts????

They are planning to fight next year man,even Kovalev's promoter has confirmed this

[Reigning Champ]

They won't get it.

Funny thing is their guy (Ward) a 168lb fighter is challenging a small guy (GGG) a 160lb fighter. And the funnier thing is Ward's supporters think it is a good thing, a big challenge a smaller guy. The funniest is Ward isn't fighting anytime soon and they still yap about how great Ward is.

Please don't use weight as an excuse. Mayweather was outweighed 15 - 20lbs when he fought Cotto, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Ortiz, Castillo, Maidana and more.

Ward also started out his professional career at 160lbs.

[Larry the boss]

Fawking Larry you are all over the place bro. I lie u dude but seriously you are a fawking ****** in this thread. Bro you didn't address my statement just hid behind 5 weightclasses. So many great boxers have said Floyd never dared to be great by fighting the best. They forgot more boxing than both you and I will ever know.
You bewitching and complaining about how GGG fans are scared for him to move up 8 pounds
But I don hear you complaining about Ward moving up 3 fawking pounds to fight Kovolev right now. You want GGG to move up right now o a weight class and fight the best in that weight class, when was the last time Floyd went up to fight the best at that weight on his first fight?
That's right he never did. But you call him TBE? Ramble on about weight classes and titles. GGG is on his way to be the lineal MW champ he still has two belat to collect.
It's kinda hypocritical of you to bag on titles yet your siggy is of a poosey with all his belts????

Floyds first fight at 135 was against the lineal champion...that was his 1st time moving up as this would be GGG's first time moving up..try again

[Larry the boss]

They won't get it.

Funny thing is their guy (Ward) a 168lb fighter is challenging a small guy (GGG) a 160lb fighter. And the funnier thing is Ward's supporters think it is a good thing, a big challenge a smaller guy. The funniest is Ward isn't fighting anytime soon and they still yap about how great Ward is.

WTF???? GGG challenged ****ing Mayweather and Pacquiao..not only are they small as hell they are ****ing old

[TripleGFightFan]

As long as Triple G don't fight Ward...we're good...he's too small for SMW but not if its against a guy from the UK like say a Froch...Triple G can become the greatest MW of all time...as long as he avoids slick boxers who use lateral movement and can take and give a punch...he'll go down as maybe the best MW of all time...

[Jedi Vader]

The Little G nuthuggery on this site is ridiculous.

[SilverMiles]

Actually I think Pac could still make 135 and Mayweather could probably still make 140, even right now. Pac outgrew Featherweight and Mayweather outgree 130. But they chose to move up higher for legacy and money of course.



That's all subjective and it depends on the era and competition in respective weight classes. Hagler was the man at MW, but moving up to 168 wouldn't have added to his legacy.

Pac has 8 division titles, Mayweather has 5. Both pretty damn impressive. Both could have fought smaller guys their size, but chose to be better than just great.

Look man, GGG is my favorite nowadays, but you shouldn't discredit legends like Oscar, Floyd, or Pac to make him look better.

I'm assuming you didn't read the original thread. I clearly said there's many roads to greatness. Now how is that discrediting anyone's legacy?

Reading is fundamental.

The fact is the people complainin about certain fighter moving up are discrediting great fighters like Willie Pep, Carlos Monzon, and Marvin Hagler.

[SilverMiles]

WTF???? GGG challenged ****ing Mayweather and Pacquiao..not only are they small as hell they are ****ing old

GGG never challenged Manny.

Floyd has a title at 154 and GGG offered to come down to challenge for them. Mayweather had zero issues fighting the same sized Canelo.

I see nothing wrong with that and two things aren't the same at all.