The most undeserved top ten p4p fighter in several publications is...

**The Problem Child** · 11-05-2015, 11:00 AM

XDDDD It hurts, doesn't it.

The Greatest/Most Feared Fighter Of All Time.

DEAL WITH IT lel.

**_Maxi** · 11-05-2015, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by therealpugilist

triple G....the guy has a resume of a prospect not a top 3 or even top 5 p4p fighter

In 34 fights he has......
1 win over a reigning title holder
3 wins over current or former titleholders( washed up Ouma, Geale, and Lemieux)

Look at the guys resumes who are not even ranked in the Rings, ESPN, or other publications resumes and you tell me who deserves it more

Guys like Broner, Khan, Garcia get trashed on this board but never shied away from fighting the best and makes his resume look embarrassing for all the hype

He doesn't even make my top ten personally. Guys Like Juan Francisco Estrada, Canelo, Bradley also have fought and beat better competition than GGG

He is getting a lil too much credit and hype for what he has done. He has beat some decent fighters but he hasn't went through what Chocolatito and Kov had to go through to get at or near the top.....even when Ward was ranked 2-3 he actually cleaned out his division.

I think they are really trying to make him out to be something he hasn't proven that he is yet, which is some kind of monster or beast.......To become a monster or beast you actually have to beat one and he hasn't.

Not his fault that the best middle weights in the last seven years have been ducking him badly.

He barely lost a round in his entire career, could you mention that? he doesn't only win by KO almost every time, but also he never loses rounds.

That's an indicator that he's too good for anyone in the 160, including Cotto and Canelo and anyone that has the balls to step up in the ring with him. He would have destroyed any of the MW champions in the past years, had them not avoided him.

You should be less of a hater and appreciate such an amazing fighter. He's awesome in any way you look at him.

Stop pretending that he needs to move up to 168 to prove he's great, because he's a 160 and all the champions have been avoiding him. Blame boxing structure for that. Champions can get away with it, not his fault.

Appreciate such an awesome fighter!

**.!WAR MIKEY!.** · 11-05-2015, 11:08 AM

If ward is on the list then so deserves GGG and deserves an even higher spot.

**UNBIASED BOXING** · 11-05-2015, 11:10 AM

Ward/Rigondeaux are the most undeserved, in my opinion.

Ward's had one meaningless fight in almost exactly 2 years. In my opinion when someone hasn't fought in one year they get removed from P4P lists.

Rigondeaux is getting close to one year of not having a single fight, and to his credit only had one really good win with a very small resume. Despite this, he's rated very highly on most lists.

Canelo has only one really good win, and it was a controversial one at that. He probably does deserve to be rated higher in most lists, but I guess people don't want to after he lost to Mayweather. He has some decent names, but most of them were already done/shot to ****.

Also, I had Lara slightly winning but regardless I saw a close fight.

**therealpugilist** · 11-05-2015, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by _Maxi

Not his fault that the best middle weights in the last seven years have been ducking him badly.

He barely lost a round in his entire career, could you mention that? he doesn't only win by KO almost every time, but also he never loses rounds.

That's an indicator that he's too good for anyone in the 160, including Cotto and Canelo and anyone that has the balls to step up in the ring with him. He would have destroyed any of the MW champions in the past years, had them not avoided him.

You should be less of a hater and appreciate such an amazing fighter. He's awesome in any way you look at him.

Stop pretending that he needs to move up to 168 to prove he's great, because he's a 160 and all the champions have been avoiding him. Blame boxing structure for that. Champions can get away with it, not his fault.

Appreciate such an awesome fighter!

I like his style he is a good fighter and I watch his fights......its not that deep bro...he hasn't faced the opposition required to be in the top 3 p4p....that's my point....nothing more or less

Not losing rounds isn't impressive if you are fighting average competiton....When Roy Jones was p4p the best or top 3 people he didn't lose rounds for years and was beating champions, titlists and moving up in weight and beat hall of famers during the time and people said he fought nobody

**SilverMiles** · 11-05-2015, 11:16 AM

Top ten fighters no matter how you feel about it.

GGG resume ****s on Broner.

GGG doesn't struggle against journeymen like Herrera.

He doesn't get embarrassed by brawlers like Maidana.

**therealpugilist** · 11-05-2015, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by _Maxi

Not his fault that the best middle weights in the last seven years have been ducking him badly.

He barely lost a round in his entire career, could you mention that? he doesn't only win by KO almost every time, but also he never loses rounds.

That's an indicator that he's too good for anyone in the 160, including Cotto and Canelo and anyone that has the balls to step up in the ring with him. He would have destroyed any of the MW champions in the past years, had them not avoided him.

You should be less of a hater and appreciate such an amazing fighter. He's awesome in any way you look at him.

Stop pretending that he needs to move up to 168 to prove he's great, because he's a 160 and all the champions have been avoiding him. Blame boxing structure for that. Champions can get away with it, not his fault.

Appreciate such an awesome fighter!

[B]I never said he needed to move up in this thread...once he cleans out division then He'd be top 3 p4p IMO that would include wins over Qullin, Lee, Cotto and Canelo.....if he could beat 3 out 4 that would be great and he'd have EARNED his place

Im not hater I just don't think he is a monster, nor do I think he is top 5 p4p, he is on the cusp if he actually fights better competition.

moving up to 168 wont hurt his legacy bro so what you complaining about....its better than him chasing little guys like Mayweather but he cant go up 8 pounds....guys like Cotto, Canelo, and Mayweather have fought in 3 and more divisions....MR. Billy Bad AZZ CANT go up one......he must not be as awesome a fighter as you seem to think???[/B]

**DreamerUSA** · 11-05-2015, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by therealpugilist

triple G....the guy has a resume of a prospect not a top 3 or even top 5 p4p fighter

In 34 fights he has......
1 win over a reigning title holder
3 wins over current or former titleholders( washed up Ouma, Geale, and Lemieux)

Look at the guys resumes who are not even ranked in the Rings, ESPN, or other publications resumes and you tell me who deserves it more

Guys like Broner, Khan, Garcia get trashed on this board but never shied away from fighting the best and makes his resume look embarrassing for all the hype

He doesn't even make my top ten personally. Guys Like Juan Francisco Estrada, Canelo, Bradley also have fought and beat better competition than GGG

He is getting a lil too much credit and hype for what he has done. He has beat some decent fighters but he hasn't went through what Chocolatito and Kov had to go through to get at or near the top.....even when Ward was ranked 2-3 he actually cleaned out his division.

I think they are really trying to make him out to be something he hasn't proven that he is yet, which is some kind of monster or beast.......To become a monster or beast you actually have to beat one and he hasn't.

If p4p was just straight up resume, I would agree, but it is'nt. Never has been and hopefully never will be.

**therealpugilist** · 11-05-2015, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by SilverMiles

Top ten fighters no matter how you feel about it.

GGG resume ****s on Broner.

GGG doesn't struggle against journeymen like Herrera.

He doesn't get embarrassed by brawlers like Maidana.

He hasn't fought anyone as good and rough as Maidana....a guy who is awkward, underrated skills, a good jab and power

Nor has he fought a middleweight with the skillset, toughness, jabs and know how of Herrera.

You really think Daniel Geale is better than Herrera and Maidana?

The most undeserved top ten p4p fighter in several publications is...