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  • therealpugilist
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    #61
    Originally posted by Hougigo
    So they still have Yamanaka on there I see
    ronda looks ******ed shadow boxing...my 12 year old son has better technique than that

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      #62
      Originally posted by RA Rugged Man
      Uhh... I love GGG, but how if Wlad not ahead of him and Ward. GGG still trying to clean out his weak division...Wlad cleaned his out 5 years ago. If P4P is on the eye test I guess giving it to GGG, but if its on resume...you gotta go with Wlad...his comp has been better. Not saying GGG cant be p4p #1, but come on. Wlad's owned his division for 10 years now. What more do you want him to do?

      Andre Ward isnt in my p4p top 1000 because he isnt an active fighter. I do my rankings once every 2 years and all he has accomplished in that period is he beat someone named Paul Smith that ive never heard of.
      you said it yourself. 5 years ago. this isn't a list from 2010

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        #63
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        ronda looks ******ed shadow boxing...my 12 year old son has better technique than that
        she looks like mike alvarado before the rios fight

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          #64
          Originally posted by Dip_Slide
          Klitschko not being number 1 is beyond me, undisputed unified heavyweight champion for like 10 years, that paper WBC title doesn't matter, he fought everybody out there and still winning at the age of 39 at a very dangerous division, yea his era didn't have too many great fighters but he dominated for so long and he deserves that number 1 spot without a doubt.

          GGG being ranked that high is ridiciulous and Brook making the list is just insane.
          he hasn't been "the champ" for that long. he really only became the "champ" after beating povetkin. 1 vs number 2. not 1 vs number 3. that's not how it works in any other division. also in the povetkin fight he clearly should have been dq'd so that hurts his ranking as it should.

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            #65
            Originally posted by daggum
            you said it yourself. 5 years ago. this isn't a list from 2010
            GGG has accomplished nothing or beat no one to make me believe he is a better fighter than Klitchko....this man is has been dominant before anyone knew who lil G was...the list is hot gawbage....WLad is top 3 p4p....GGG has the resume of a prospect

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              #66
              they put ronda rousey on the cover.......
              how valid did u expect their p4p list to be?

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                #67
                Originally posted by daggum
                he hasn't been "the champ" for that long. he really only became the "champ" after beating povetkin. 1 vs number 2. not 1 vs number 3. that's not how it works in any other division. also in the povetkin fight he clearly should have been dq'd so that hurts his ranking as it should.
                give it up fan boy.....Wlad been laying waste to heavyweight and at one point held a win over 8 out of 10 of the top ten contenders


                GGG is a nobody with a bunch and die hard fans...dude is 34 and finally unified two belts...He is champion of his own division....there is no way you can argue him being over a proven champion like Wlad except him being your preference. Wlad is proven on the top level....GGG is not

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                  #68
                  Somewhat agreed. Kovalev and Golovkin don't deserve to be higher than Wladimir. Nobody knows them besides hardcore boxing fans, they are not proved boxers and aren't big names.

                  Wlad is generational, while Kov and GGG are short time fame boxers.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    GGG has accomplished nothing or beat no one to make me believe he is a better fighter than Klitchko....this man is has been dominant before anyone knew who lil G was...the list is hot gawbage....WLad is top 3 p4p....GGG has the resume of a prospect
                    I disagree. Can't think of many prospects that have beat this many top 10ish contenders.

                    That being said, Wlad clearly deserves to be higher.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BrometheusBob
                      I disagree. Can't think of many prospects that have beat this many top 10ish contenders.

                      That being said, Wlad clearly deserves to be higher.
                      the top tenish people he beat were not impressive before or after he beat them...Proska and Murray were the best he has beat IMO.....its not like he is in a stacked division like 147, 175, 112, 122, or 154...those Top tenish guys are ok but the division is pretty shallow like when Hopkins was the man in the late 90s and his resume shows it.....his best wins are over guys from 147 and 154 who moved up

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