Comments Thread For: Alexander Povetikin Dominates, Stops Wach in The Twelfth

[Jewish-Reptile]

would they be able to uh... "bypass the mando" if a unification fight with the wlad/fury winner gets made? I swear I heard/read that somewhere.

The WBC have confirmed they will not stand in Klitschko's way if he wants to unify, obviously he has to get Wilder to the damned table first though, or more importantly Haymon. I expect Wlad will have to make concessions for that fight to happen, venue, finances etc.

Surely that fight can be made for Vegas, and potentially even ppv.

[New England]

I'd take Povetkin by KO.

Wilder hasn't proven he can handle someone with Povetkin's movement, someone who's going to be jumping in and out and showing angles. He's been facing slow fighters like Stiverne, Molina and Duhaupas who have no speed at all. Wilder doesn't have an answer when fighters get close to him. He doesn't clinch and doesn't have a good inside game at all. He just covers up with a high guard. You need to be able to have one of those things against Povetkin. You can't just expect to keep him at the end of the jab for 12 rounds and throw 1-2 combinations. Wach tried that early, Povetkin adjusted, he started bobbing and weaving more and catching him with leaping left hooks.

Wilder hasn't been preparing himself properly with his level of competition to face a guy like Povetkin.

Also, Ryabinksy will likely win that purse bid and take the fight to Russia. I don't think it'll make a difference tbh.

[Larry the boss]

Wach is just not good at all

[SteveM]

He's lucky he wasn't fighting Wilder, he had trouble getting past Wach's jab early, if Wach wasn't so reluctant to throw he could've had Povetkin on the back foot and took control.

Bad reffing too, Povetkin got away with something like 6 blatant low blows, while Wach was getting constant warnings from round 1. Then he stops the fight to add a TKO victory to Povetkin's resume lol.

His flaws will be magnified against Wilder, Wilder's much faster, hits harder, has much better reflexes than the human punching bag, Wach.

I pretty much agree with all of this. Wach is extremely durable and he wasn't in danger of going down in the 12th. Also his cut , although bad, wasn't suddenly going to get a lot worse in the remaining minute or so.

How many right hands did Wach throw the entire fight? Ten maybe?

[hhs661]

Just caught the fight. Not impressed. I'll still favor Povetkin due to his pedigree over Wilder, but it's not outlandish to think that Wilder can't defeat him

[hhs661]

[SteveM]

I'd take Povetkin by KO.

Wilder hasn't proven he can handle someone with Povetkin's movement, someone who's going to be jumping in and out and showing angles. He's been facing slow fighters like Stiverne, Molina and Duhaupas who have no speed at all. Wilder doesn't have an answer when fighters get close to him. He doesn't clinch and doesn't have a good inside game at all. He just covers up with a high guard. You need to be able to have one of those things against Povetkin. You can't just expect to keep him at the end of the jab for 12 rounds and throw 1-2 combinations. Wach tried that early, Povetkin adjusted, he started bobbing and weaving more and catching him with leaping left hooks.

Wilder hasn't been preparing himself properly with his level of competition to face a guy like Povetkin.

Also, Ryabinksy will likely win that purse bid and take the fight to Russia. I don't think it'll make a difference tbh.

It's true that Povetkin is a level or tow or three above Molina and Duhaupas. But also Wilder is at least 1 and probably 2 levels above Wach.

Wach was reluctant to throw because his hand speed was so much slower than Povetkin's. Wilder has more hand speed which should automatically see Povetkin countering less. Wilder also has faster foot speed than Wach so he will launch more effective attacks, have less fear about doing so and also that same foot speed will mean he takes less punishment than Wach.

In short, just because Wach is a similar height to Wilder this fight didn't tell me much about how Wilder-Povetkin might shape up.

[bigjavi973]

The WBC have confirmed they will not stand in Klitschko's way if he wants to unify, obviously he has to get Wilder to the damned table first though, or more importantly Haymon. I expect Wlad will have to make concessions for that fight to happen, venue, finances etc.

Surely that fight can be made for Vegas, and potentially even ppv.

That fight should definitely be a ppv

[Strive 4 Truth]

True,wilder would throw at least both hands not just the jab,the jab is there to control the distance and to set up the right something which wach either can't or doesn't wanna do, the ref is a cu**...he knows he's in Russia and if he fu*** up they'll murder him as soon as he leaves the arena.

Yea if Wilder cant set the distance he will be in big trouble. Povetkin although seems able to cut down his opponents offense with his own offense. Should be an interesting fight, considering their backgrounds.

[Strive 4 Truth]

people can call Wach what they want. Fact is he is still a huge guy with a long jab. Povetkin picked this giant with a granite chin for a reason. He learned a lot more from this fight then anyone will admit. plus he is still better then both of Wilders last opponents. When the dust settles Povetkin could very well have the last laugh in this one.