Is Amir Khan's wealth and fame limiting his in ring potential?

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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    He's actually trying to say that Khan fought a better version of Collazo

    I mean just when you think he can't embarrass himself any further, he goes and does it.
    Did he say that?

    That can't be true. Collazo was something like a year removed from alcoholism or something.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Box-Office
      Skill is intangible. Collazo was never a guy who relied on his physical gifts cuz he had none that stood out. His skill level remained the same if not improved with age.
      Ahem.............

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        #73
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Weak argument.

        Ask any boxer. If they could fight a boxer or a puncher who they'd rather fight, and it'll be a boxer any day of the week. Usually less punishment on the body regardless of the outcome of the fight.
        Khan relies extensively on physical gifts.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Well there's also the fact that Collazo was 36 or something and recovering from alcoholism. The fact that he was losing to guys like Freddy Hernandez. The fact that his losses in big fights came several years ago whereas Chaves' have been coming in recent times and he's still a relevant fighter.

          But anyway, I'm beating a dead horse at the moment. And I mean very dead. You were flatlined yesterday.

          I'm basically just pissing on your grave for kicks at the moment.

          33. Troll.

          Where did I even say Collazo was a great win?

          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          He's actually trying to say that Khan fought a better version of Collazo

          I mean just when you think he can't embarrass himself any further, he goes and does it.
          What did I tell you to stay away from subjects you don't now anything about?

          & why exactly are you still chatting **** about me?
          Last edited by Box-Office; 11-02-2015, 12:19 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Weak argument.

            Ask any boxer. If they could fight a boxer or a puncher who they'd rather fight, and it'll be a boxer any day of the week. Usually less punishment on the body regardless of the outcome of the fight.
            Yeah, that's a given. I mean every gym has that kid even on the most basic level and unless you really have to you'd like to avoid more damage to your head.

            If you read my posts, my point has been Collazo was always a guy who relied on skill, unlike say Witter who also had skill, but depended a lot on his physical tools, reflexes in this case. Skill either remains the same if not improve. As you grow you learn more neat tricks and tools. I'm not suggesting Collazo improved, but he surely didn't become sh.1t either.

            Is it the same as Hatton beating Collazo? Of course not, Hatton beat the WBA WW champion and Khan the version coming off Ortiz who himself was desperate for a win. Then again it was a WW debut, like D.Garcia-Malignaggi.





            Originally posted by LacedUp
            This is ******.

            Ricky wasn't in the Olymics and didn't have the luxury of selling out the MEN in his pro debut.

            The fact of the matter is that Khan hasn't become what we all hoped he would be. We thought he was the new Oscar dela Hoya. He turned out very differently.
            He was ABA champ, not exactly a baby either. He knew his way around the ring. Not like Khan was moved along like Degale, but like a standard prospect.

            That ODLH bubble popped after Prescott.
            Last edited by Box-Office; 11-02-2015, 01:03 PM.

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              #76
              Khan can't be outboxed?

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              • LacedUp
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                #77
                Originally posted by Box-Office
                Yeah, that's a given. I mean every gym has that kid even on the most basic level and unless you really have to you'd like to avoid more damage to your head.

                If you read my posts, my point has been Collazo was always a guy who relied on skill, unlike say Witter who also had skill, but depended a lot on his physical tools, reflexes in this case. Skill either remains the same if not improve. As you grow you learn more neat tricks and tools. I'm not suggesting Collazo improved, but he surely didn't become sh.1t either.

                Is it the same as Hatton beating Collazo? Of course not, Hatton beat the WBA WW champion and Khan the version coming off Ortiz who himself was desperate for a win. Then again it was a WW debut, like D.Garcia-Malignaggi.


                He was ABA champ, not exactly a baby either. He knew his way around the ring. Not like Khan was moved along like Degale, but like a standard prospect.

                That ODLH bubble popped after Prescott.
                I would say Collazo had lost a fair bit from when he was a real player on the scene to now. He'd been to rehab and what not. Good fighter, don't get me wrong. But I think he was better back in the day.

                ABA SchmaBA, that doesn't mean anything. Hatton was a slow burner, Khan was an instant superstar and household name. It's quite literally impossible for Hatton to be given the same opportunities. Granted, Khan earned his way to the Olympics and all that, but he was pushed in the pros. Unlike others like Hatton who took a while to get noticed.

                Khan was moved along very quickly. They talked about world title fights after 10 fights or so I remember. Even though he was just a kid and was definitely not ready.

                But even after prescott, he had 1-2 fights and then it was forgotten. He got a world title shot almost straight after Prescott if I remember correctly.

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