Is Amir Khan's wealth and fame limiting his in ring potential?

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #41
    Originally posted by Box-Office
    Ummm ok. Goes to show the level King Khan is at where World level guys are apparently tailor made for him.
    I've never denied Khan is "world level". Lots of fighters are "world level". Doesn't change the fact that the styles of the fighters he's been carefully selecting are tailor made for him.

    Originally posted by Box-Office
    Collazo that didn't get the decision vs Ricky Hatton?

    In other words Amir Khan is a tremendous boxer.
    Well no, the Collazo that didn't get the decision against Hatton fought in 2006.

    The Collazo that fought Khan was in 2012.

    So there's that.

    And then you factor in the style contrasts and no that doesn't make Amir Khan a tremendous boxer. It makes him someone that looks good against a certain style.
    Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 11-01-2015, 05:27 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Box-Office
      Its amazing how much Khan has achieved at 34 fights, compare that with "our Rickeh" who was still defending his coveted WBU title against people from the homeless shelter.

      Khan has to be one of the biggest overachievers in the game. Everything he achieved beyond Prescott, where even I thought he is done, is like an icing on the cake, now that's alotta icing.
      I can just imagine you saying that on your knees in front of Khan whilst he takes a huge sigh and lights up a cigarette.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        I've never denied Khan is "world level". Lots of fighters are "world level". Doesn't change the fact that the styles of the fighters he's been carefully selecting are tailor made for him.


        Well no, the Collazo that didn't get the decision against Hatton fought in 2006.

        The Collazo that fought Khan was in 2012
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        So there's that.

        And then you factor in the style contrasts and no that doesn't make Amir Khan a tremendous boxer.
        The argument was "boxers" ie skill/ability, which doesn't decline with age, unless you rely extensively on physical gifts. Collazo was always a crafty technician.

        Being a light hitter doesn't mean you aren't good.
        Last edited by Box-Office; 11-01-2015, 05:36 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Box-Office
          The argument was "boxers" ie skill/ability, which doesn't decline with age, unless you rely extensively on physical gifts. Collazo was always a crafty technician.
          Everything declines with age. What the hell are you talking about? Collazo was always a crafty technician with not much power i.e tailor made for Khan.

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            #45
            Plus isn't Collazo just a "loser"? He lost all his big fights. I mean that's the logic you use for Diego Chaves

            His claim to fame is "he gave Hatton and Berto tough fights" so that must mean he's ****, right?

            Plus he was old and apparently a recovering alcoholic.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Everything declines with age. What the hell are you talking about? Collazo was always a crafty technician with not much power i.e tailor made for Khan.
              Skill is intangible. Collazo was never a guy who relied on his physical gifts cuz he had none that stood out. His skill level remained the same if not improved with age.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Even Mayweather fights more often than Khan these days and he's worth far more money.

                Khan is just pissing his pants that he'll get chinned again and become completely irrelevant.
                That's all it is. He wants a big fight but he doesn't want to risk getting knocked out again in order to earn a big fight. He's acted like a frightened baby since Garcia whooped his ass. His decisions and competition since then have been inexcusable. Khan does nothing but talk.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Box-Office
                  Skill is intangible. Collazo was never a guy who relied on his physical gifts cuz he had none that stood out. His skill level remained the same if not improved with age.


                  Damn. 2014 recovering alcoholic Collazo was even better than he was in his prime baby!

                  You're getting worse by the day. I implore you to take a sabbatical from NSB to save yourself further embarrassment.

                  Every one of your posts is becoming sig worthy.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Plus isn't Collazo just a "loser"? He lost all his big fights. I mean that's the logic you use for Diego Chaves

                    His claim to fame is "he gave Hatton and Berto tough fights" so that must mean he's ****, right?

                    Plus he was old and apparently a recovering alcoholic.
                    Nice twist. My premise has always been a name or champ, champ being complementary, but ANYHOW:

                    Difference is, Collazo was Khan's debut fight at WW a very respectable opponent in that CONTEXT. Just like Senchenko and Matthew Hatton were being considered, something Kell-ends took from that video and ran with.

                    Chaves on the other end is Brook's 3rd World title defense, his best fight as a World champion after a string on Tin Tin Can and FraNandos Gavin. Could call it a career defining one.

                    So, Khan fights guys like Chaves in his WW debut, while Kell takes them on in his best fight as a World champion. Levels.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Box-Office
                      Nice twist. My premise has always been a name or champ, champ being complementary, but ANYHOW:

                      Difference is, Collazo was Khan's debut fight at WW a very respectable opponent in that CONTEXT. Just like Senchenko and Matthew Hatton were being considered, something Kell-ends took from that video and ran with.

                      Chaves on the other end is Brook's 3rd World title defense, his best fight as a World champion after a string on Tin Tin Can and FraNandos Gavin. Could call it a career defining one.

                      So, Khan fights guys like Chaves in his WW debut, while Kell takes them on in his best fight as a World champion. Levels.
                      What does that matter? Khan's 3rd or 4th defence was Paul McCloskey

                      You're just shifting goalposts to suit your argument. Collazo is a just career loser according to your logic. A poor man's Lovemore N'Dou.

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