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It's all about what you generate and your marketability. Estrada and Gonzalez individiaully would not attract 1 million viewers or sell out arenas if the tickets are not $5-25, $100 tops. Together vs each other they won't do enough in numbers that they deserve 1 million dollars each. $1million total for both would be fine for their level of marketability.
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Can't imagine HBO will go with this, but good luck to them in trying to get it. Honestly I feel like Roman is lucky to even be on HBO at all, so he's pushing his luck with asking for this much $. Like it or not the average boxing fans don't like watching the lil guys thus this is a bold move to ask a company with a ~$30M budget to spend this much on a fight most viewers see as a co-main fight just cuz their lil guys.Comment
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Those are marketable fights.Originally posted by BennyST View Post****in A! You've got guys in boxing all over the place earning millions, literally, for **** fights that no one cares to see against opposition that no one knows, and presents no threat or interest.
Here though, we have what is arguably the very best fight to be made in all of boxing today, at least it's certainly up there with Ward/Kov, Cotto/Canelo etc, and these guys will get tens of millions and we can't even justify 1 million.
Considering their last fight, we are very likely to get one of the best fights we've seen in years and a certain contender for FOTY, yet people are whinging about them asking for peanuts comparatively. Everyone should be getting behind this and agreeing. Their first was a great fight, and both have gotten better, so this could be truly epic and they are both at their absolute peaks.
These guys are two of the best P4P fighters, at their peak wanting to fight each other to unify the division and they want to be made 1/20th of what of what other fighters make and that's asking too much?
Ward vs Kovalev is a decent PPV fight itself, and a great high level fight. If that fight was on PPV I can see it doing 250k.
Cotto-Canelo is the second biggest PPV fight this year. They will probably draw something like 600-800,000 PPV buys.
Gonzalez vs Estrada 2 is not a PPV fight, and if it was, this fight would sell about as many PPV's as fans in attendance in the Cotto vs Canelo fight. If this fight sold 50k PPV's it would be the most shocking numbers I have ever seen because I don't think they can reach that high. Or HBO can just put them on televised HBO and get like who knows how many views, probably nothing impressive, nothing we haven't seen before. I don't think either of these guys are one of the 10 best fighters in boxing, I think especially RG, has been a journalist created top fighter and I am not impressed at all with his wins.Comment
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Who gives a **** about that ****e Kev? This is undoubtedly one of the very best fights in boxing, in terms of action, and in terms of two of the best champions in boxing facing each other to unify a division and find a true champion.
This is exactly what boxing is lacking in every way across the board and people are talking about marketing, ppv, numbers, banking...
Have you seen Carbajal/Gonzalez? Explain how that is not 'marketable'?
Because they're small? You'll rarely ever see a greater, more brutal fight and anyone fan would die to see that ****. It's a consensus as one of the greatest fights ever. Frankly, you're way more likely to get an epic, fan friendly war in this fight than in any other more 'marketable' fight. If people don't even give it the time of day, then it's no wonder all our superfights suck. People don't think as fans.
All these super fights that get way too much money spent on them, and the huge majority turn out as complete, massive ****ing duds, yet even fans are *****ing and moaning and acting like business partners and investors for a fight that has already produced one brilliant fight, has even more riding on it now, and is undoubtedly going to produce again.
These are the exact type of fights that need to be pushed, because they are simply ****ing good. There won't be any clinching, there won't be any holding, there won't be any stamina issues (see both Cotto and Canelo), and there won't be any mauling, headbutting, scrappy, smothering tactics...you'll see a high level, offensive fight between two of the best stylists in the game today.Comment
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Than Extrada should go with Jay-ZOriginally posted by daggum View Postward gets 2 million dollars to fight brand while roman gets 250k
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Originally posted by BennyST View Post
, VERY nicely put!
A real boxing fan will enjoy a GOOD FIGHT no matter the weight. For instance, I enjoyed the fight between Chocolatito and Viloria more than the fight of GGG vs. Lemieux, because IMO the earlier one was way more action-packed, had more quality of boxing and was more entertaining.
But to each their own. If most people prefer to throw their money down the toilet watching a super-boring defensive and cowardly welter weight trickster running away, clinching blatantly without penalty and never engaging his opponent, well, it's their money. They can do whatever they want with it.
If I was offered any other fight right now at the same PPV price as Estrada-Gonzalez, I would choose the latter because IMO, technically speaking, and in entertaining and full-action terms, there is absolutely no other possible fight right now that would top that one.
But most people don't even know who Estrada is, and they just learned that Gonzalez exists because that was the co-feature for the last GGG fight. The little guys get zero promotional support compared with the heavier guys. Maybe people enjoy just watching bigger bodies fighting each other more than small-bodied individuals, regardless of whether or not it is actually a good fight what is happening? IDK, in that case, I understand why wrestling has a big fan base even if people know it is more an acting event than real fighting.Last edited by sterilizer; 10-31-2015, 01:29 PM.Comment
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They probably do, but it's tough with them being so unknown.Comment
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They're posturing... they're already going to get more money than anybody in their weight class, so they're trying to maximize a rematch that people are gonna watch. Don't think they're gonna get a million each, but they won't split a million.
IMO it'll headline it's own card... this is the definite coming out party for Roman as a main event headlinerComment
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