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  • #31
    It is pretty self defeating. Two guys walk around at similar weights to you, fight for a title in your division at 1 lb above a lower division...then refuse (?) to defend it at the divisions full weight where you've long campaigned.

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    • #32
      I think refusing the fight will hurt Canelo too much. I don't see how he can stick to the 155 demand. There is not much for him at 154 (if he can even make it) and if he is fighting those guys at 155 or 156 he can't fight them for 154 titles, and if he ducks GGG and hands over the belt and then continues to fight middleweights at 155/156 for no belt he'll be a bit of a laughing stock.

      imo his position is weaker than most think.

      His only option for a title if he ducked GGG would be trying to challenge for Lee/Saunders belt and (pip GGG for that). Either way I think it will be seen as a bit of a ***** move.

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      • #33
        Why should Canelo end up with 3 MW belts never have fighting a 160 fight. Why?

        Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
        I'm starting to believe this. As if those shiny belts will buy food in 20 years... unless they're pawned off for some actual cashish.

        It's like saying you'll only date X race women, then along comes one of that X race babes, and you're still too ****** to realize 'say, this would be a cool chick to hang with'. It's called reassessment of one's priorities. One of many things smart people do in their lives. UnAbel can blabber away all he wants... facts remain the biggest payday(s) for GGG are Cotto and Canelo. That is indisputable. So, as soon as the GGG team wises up and realizes that stone cold reality, just maybe they'll remove cranium from back door, wise up, and sign the papers.
        Do you realize how rich GGG is in his country. He doesn't need a fortune like Americans. He's said this repeatedly.

        He doesn't need to sell out for big payday alone. Or maybe it's negotiating.

        The money he will make as a fighter will feed his family for generations.

        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        It is shocking what can happen if you sack up and fight someone with a pulse.

        Who is Golovkin fighting next ?
        Likely people better than overrated Canelo anyways.

        Canelo is a MW who can't hang, so he tries to drain everyone.

        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        In this very article Team Golovkin stated they dont want Cotto/Canelo.
        You are so nuts. You make these leaps although you know it's not true.

        They said clearly, they are not fighting for three MW belts at 155.

        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        I think that Team Golovkin will petition the WBC for the winner to be stripped before they even consider a catchweight.

        This is eerily like the situation with Ward.

        If so, they took the easy way out by walking away with nothing other than a worthless strap, completely contradicting their own hype.

        It is almost a step backwards considering their resume/PPV predicament.

        Gennady should be confirming that he is great, not leaving yet another unanswered question.

        " anyone from 154-168 doe "
        Actually, they don't need to petition.

        Canelo has 15 days to agree to a fight, or its on. Pretty simple really.

        If Canelo wants to keep his belt and his balls, he'll fight, if not, then bye.

        Originally posted by Bandman View Post
        the B SIDE getting out of pocket again smh. never seen a B SIDE so delusional before..wait yes i have, amir khan..and look at what running his mouth got him. sanchez just killed the biggest payday for his fighter. he cares more about a belt than making potentially $10mill, yea fckn right. if cotto-canelo does huge numbers expect a rematch, those guys have absolutely no need for mr. 97K. all this crap about "fans will turn on canelo" LMAO, canelo resume speaks for itself, he has taken fights he didn't have to before. cotto is already HOF status. golovkin is a nobody camping out in a weak division waiting for small guys to move up like a COWARD. bernard hopkins dropped to 156 to meet oscar, you know why? because we all knew oscar wasn't no damn middleweight even though he had a MW strap. nobody is holding the belt "hostage" the WBC can strip cotto right now, why won't they?
        B-Hop dropped to 158. And he was not fighting a guy who rehydrated to his same weight.

        De la Hoya was not MW champ who rehydrated heavier than B-hop.

        Canelo Rehydrates bigger than GGG. Why the CW?

        Originally posted by Bandman View Post
        one question to shut down these golovkin a.ss wipers. can golovkin beat cotto/canelo at 155?? if you answer yes, then this does not need to be debated any longer. 155 will not affect him, the boy said he can even make 154 to kick floyd's a.ss ... so what in the **** is the fuss about. "they're fighting for a 160 belt it needs to be exactly at 160 or else they are cowards" LOL, hopkins-delahoya wasn't at 160, bhop made SACRIFICES, got his biggest win, biggest payday and most exposure he's ever had. golovkin wants everything to be on his terms, mr. 97K got the game all ****ed up. people call cotto a diva, golovkin is the BIGGEST diva there is.

        Oh, Canelo and Floyd are the same weight. So Floyd Rehydrates to 175.

        Ok, so these are not the same.

        Coming to 154 to fight Floyd is meeting Floyd where he owns a belt.

        GGG is mandatory to the 160 pound WBC strap. He doesn't need to come down to get that belt.

        Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
        althogh we know alvarez does'nt have the balls to fight little G. its funny how little G said that he would come down to 154 and fight mayweather but won't do 155 for alvarez. we're talking about a 1lb difference.
        Umm, no!

        I love the 154 Floyd argument, , Floyd doesn't rehydrate to 175.

        Jesus. He comes down to Floyd because that's meeting him at a weight he own belts. Floyd is much lighter than Canelo, it only makes sense for a meeting

        Canelo will own a 160 belt.

        Come on,nth is isn't that hard.
        Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 10-27-2015, 05:13 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
          Do you realize how rich GGG is in his country. He doesn't need a fortune like Americans. He's said this repeatedly.

          He is selling out for big payday alone. Or maybe it's negotiating.

          The money he will make as a fighter will feed his family for generations.



          Likely people better than overrated Canelo anyways.

          Canelo is a MW who can't gang, so he tries to drain everyone.



          You so nuts. You make these leaps although you know it's not true.

          They said clearly, they are not fighting for three MW belts at 155.



          Actually, they don't need to petition.

          Canelo has 15 days to agree to a fight, or its on. Pretty simple really.

          If Canelo wants to keep his belt and his balls, he'll fight, if not, then bye.



          B-Hop dropped to 158. And he was not fighting a guy who rehydrated to his same weight.

          De la Hoya was not MW champ who rehydrated heavier than B-hop.

          Canelo Rehydrates bigger than GGG. Why the CW?




          Oh, Canelo and Floyd are the same weight. So Floyd Rehydrates to 175.

          Ok, so these are not the same.

          Coming to 154 to fight Floyd is meeting Floyd where he owns a belt.

          GGG is mandatory to the 160 pound WBC strap. He doesn't need to come down to get that belt.



          Umm, no!

          I love the 154 Floyd argument, , Floyd doesn't rehydrate to 175.

          Jesus. He comes down to Floyd because that's meet him at his weight, where he owns a belt.

          Canelo will own a 160 belt.

          Come on,nth is isn't that hard.
          ok so the answer to my question "can golovkin beat canelo at 155?" is no? now its only about who rehydrates more. you making your boy look like a COWARD. canelo already told you the only reason the belt is on the line is because cotto has it, yes if he wins he'll be MW champ, but he doesn't care for it. at that point the WBC can strip him, but they can also strip cotto RIGHT NOW before the fight even starts since both fighters have said they wont go to 160, why wont they strip him RIGHT NOW?? and canelo is far from "overrated" resume speaks for itself. and go check the weigh in, bhop weighed 156 at the scales, not 158. . thing is you don't want your boy to make any SACRIFICES whatsoever, you want everybody to do things on his terms. the fight does not have to be at exactly 160, thats BS. technically MW is anything above 154. so why can't little g sacrifice a few pounds and give us all the biggest fight in boxing? belts or no belts you would still tune in. the guy is being a damn diva plain n simple. go to 155, knock canelo out, take the belt, then move on to your precious 160. but then at least you'll have a decent win on your resume.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bandman View Post
            ok so the answer to my question "can golovkin beat canelo at 155?" is no? now its only about who rehydrates more. you making your boy look like a COWARD. canelo already told you the only reason the belt is on the line is because cotto has it, yes if he wins he'll be MW champ, but he doesn't care for it. at that point the WBC can strip him, but they can also strip cotto RIGHT NOW before the fight even starts since both fighters have said they wont go to 160, why wont they strip him RIGHT NOW?? and canelo is far from "overrated" resume speaks for itself. and go check the weigh in, bhop weighed 156 at the scales, not 158. . thing is you don't want your boy to make any SACRIFICES whatsoever, you want everybody to do things on his terms. the fight does not have to be at exactly 160, thats BS. technically MW is anything above 154. so why can't little g sacrifice a few pounds and give us all the biggest fight in boxing? belts or no belts you would still tune in. the guy is being a damn diva plain n simple. go to 155, knock canelo out, take the belt, then move on to your precious 160. but then at least you'll have a decent win on your resume.
            First, Canelo is lying about why the title is on the line, and he says Cotto demanded CW. Canelo wanted 157. They paid GGG step aside money.

            He knew he was gonna have to vacate. So no problem then. Canelo isn't gonna fight GGG anyways.

            And, MW is 155-160. True. Not just 155. Canelo can weigh whatever the **** he wants, but to demand GGG weigh 155 is the problem. MW is up to 160. That's why Canelo can't demand the CW.

            He fights GGG, Vacates, GGG agrees to CW, or Canelo is stripped. GGG sees no reason he should put his two 160 pound straps on the line at 155.

            There is no 155 division. Like you said, it's 155 to 160. Canelo is welcome to go find a 155 title. (But no, he wants a chance to win three 160 titles at 155).

            Get out of here. Even if he can beat him at 155, he doesn't have too.

            GGG is not the Coward trying to drain a guy who actually is the same weight.

            I know what Canelo said, but two days before that, De La Hoya said it was about the belt.

            And if Canelo doesn't care about the belt, he'll vacate.

            Canelo is trying to drag a guy his own size down to 155.

            Canelo knows he can withstand that 20 pounds drain because he is 8 years younger.

            He is scared, no matter how you paint it, it's true.

            AND THE CONTRACTED WEIGHT IS THE ISSUE

            And the B-hop contracted weight was 158. NOT WHAT he chose to come in at doesn't matter, because he didn't have too, and he was actually fighting a guy who had 1 MW fight.

            De La Hoya wasn't a MW. Canelo is. He weighs more than GGG before and during fights.

            Canelo gas fought at 155 his many times.

            He Rehydrates to 175.

            And his resume, many argue he lost every tough fight, Lara, Trout, etc. I don't care.

            He is about to be MW champ, lineal.

            He either vacates or defends it.
            Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 10-27-2015, 05:30 AM.

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            • #36
              WOW....I never really cared for little g but I felt like Abel was a top notch trainer....I used to really like that dude...NOW, I think he's a snake ass hypocrite who thinks he's some big time trainer...don't get it twisted, he's a solid coach...I'll give him that, but the **** that be coming outta his mouth must make his ass hole jealous!!

              It started with him saying Willie Jr. was a bigger name than Lara...then he said he wanted a CW to fight Ward because Ward never had to travel in the S6....then he said Floyd should fight little g instead of Berto...saying Floyd should test himself....yes!!...he said Floyd should take the little g fight to TEST HIMSELF......that sounded so hypocritical because little g could've taken the Ward test but declined.....little g's resume is weaker than Floyd Sr's corny ass rhymes but Abel STILL had the nerve to say that about Floyd

              Dude is the type to ride the public perception wave and as long as his fighter is getting support from the male cheerleaders around here and love from the cats who put words in the articles, he'll say ignorant hypocritical **** like he's been known to say and then depend on the the little g fan base and the overrated journalist to fight his case in public while he sit back and play Mr. Big Shot or Mr. Call The Shots...smh....he's a clown

              If little g could drop to 154 and fight Floyd, then WTFis the problem to drop down to 155 for Nelo or Cotto?!?...it's not like he won't be getting his biggest pay day for cutting a few extra pounds....lastly, **** the belts...those things lost value long time ago....the former MW champ Maravilla lost the strap as the B SIDE to Cotto....BHop dropped down to 156 as the Unified champ and B SIDE to tame Hoya's hoe ass....so miss me with that belt ****.....if Team little g wasn't so full of themselves and stop trying to play shot callers or dictators, and quit playing the victim they'd be far more likable on certain corners.....the sport is full of political bs but these K2 mutha****as be trying to come across as politically correct.....these special weight stipulations been in the sport for a long time...now these dudes acting like they're the first ones to have to bite a bullet to get what they want...GTFOH

              Abel is a snake ass manipulative hypocrite....he knows the sheep they've gathered will defend whatever ****ery that Team little g puts out there....they got the little g cheerleaders buying second hand bs off ebay for top ****ing dollar!!....in the words of the Great One aka the Brahma Bull aka the Rock also known as Dwayne Johnson....KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR ****ING MOUTH....sit your B SIDE ass down and take whatever the top draws give you.....Floyd, BHop and many more had to bite bullets to get where they're at now....Abel is full of **** man!!
              Last edited by Mr. Philadel; 10-27-2015, 05:49 AM.

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              • #37
                Golovkin can have all the belts and guess what?? He won't go to next super star level so many ppl say he's destined for. Beating Cotto or Canelo takes him there. Problem is, they don't want to fight him at the full 160. GiGi has realized that he doesn't have to participate in that but he also won't go anywhere either this way.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bigg Rigg View Post
                  Golovkin can have all the belts and guess what?? He won't go to next super star level so many ppl say he's destined for. Beating Cotto or Canelo takes him there. Problem is, they don't want to fight him at the full 160. GiGi has realized that he doesn't have to participate in that but he also won't go anywhere either this way.
                  You don't understand the Picture here. If GGG gets the WBC belt by default, he has all the belts. If Canelo suddenly finds out he cannot make 154, he will have to fight GGG to get a title and GGG will then be in the drivers seat both regarding weight and regarding pursesplit.

                  Cotto? I don't care about him. This Canelo fight is his last fight at MW.

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                  • #39
                    We have Cotto-Canelo, Ward-Kovalev in the future.C-C winner can fight Mayweather if he comes back, rematches.W-K winner can fight Stevenson.And we have GGG's "i want that belt" ****.It's pathetic

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                      We all know canelo doesn't have a leg to stand on...its the middleweight chmapionship of the world it's always been 154.1-160....the WBC are not gonna start changing or adapting divisions just because one fighter can't decide whether to take the plunge in the bigger lead, ok they have sparred golovkin they know how dangerous he is, they know what golovkin can do..canelo's not ready, I get that, I don't think for one moment that canelo wants to get embarrassed by golovkin in the ring and if he declines the fight over the excuse of 155 that's his call.....he just cannot wear that world title at 160...he can fight in that division and try and get 155 fights against other middleweights but it will look pretty silly him fighting catchweights against middleweights and everybody knowing he lost the belt because he didn't want to face a dangerous opponent , he has to fight 154 to remove the flack of 155 and being ready at middleweight , My rang me yesterda....we didn't speak for few weeks, he loves his boxing.....said to me did you see the golovkin , he said when he steps in that ring he's unreal....changes like Jekyll and Hyde ....outside a college boy to look at inside the ring it's genghis Khan ....that's what he said and he's just a casual fan
                      Wow, that was a big ol cry about nothing.

                      You were told yesterday that canelo has no interest in middleweight.

                      Its ok, your gf is safe from lil nelo

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