Comments Thread For: Pacquiao is Warned By Ex-Coach To Avoid Crawford

[Combat Talk Radio]

There is a reason why he's an X trainer ..Lets hear what Roach thinks before we listen to Manny's former trainer

That might be better for Manny's chances of winning, but neither fight is sellable on PPV. Ultimately this is all about making money. Nobody wants to pay for a Rios rematch or another Bradley fight. Been there, done that.

Rios: Nobody will pay. Too dominant a loss.
Khan? Barely got past Algieri, exposed. Doesn't deserve it.
Crawford? I think it'd be Pacquiao/Cotto all over again. Crawford stopped late.

Bradley? I don't agree. It's the real money fight here.

The first fight was a close split, not a wide, not a UD. What hurt Manny was the fact he basically BS'd through at least 4 rounds including the final ones. The A-Side (Manny) always gets the homefield advantage, which means two judges found this lazy behavior inexcusable. This fresh off of basically robbing Marquez in the third fight, they probably were looking for him to show up that fight, and he didn't.

The second fight, Bradley was up at first and then started messing up. UD, but not a wide UD except on scummy scorecards. I gave Pacquiao that fight 8 rounds to 4, but 3 of those 8 were swing rounds where Bradley was connecting. Not impressive, people made it out to be more of a dominant win than it was simply because they were mad at Bradley for winning the first fight. He couldn't even put Bradley down the second time with a HURT LEG.

Lest we also not forget, Pacquiao/Bradley 2 did 4x the PPV buys that GGG/Lemieux did. Not a stretch to think it could hit 1 million buys.

Bradley is since coming off a win and a questionable draw where he should have won. He's got momentum and fans behind him again. Most important, he's got the belt back that Manny took from him, which Floyd took from Manny. The marketing flyers write themselves.

Pacquiao couldn't stop Rios, couldn't stop Algieri (and his trainer was to blame for that poor performance, as we saw a MUCH better fighter against Khan), and UD lost to Floyd Mayweather after swearing up and down he was going to beat him.


No...I don't buy the hype. Let's see a rubber match. If Tim Bradley retires Manny Pacquiao, it will SHOCK the boxing world, because it means Manny truly is washed up, and Manny will go out a laughing stock compared to his once-rivals. I'd pay to see Pacquiao/Bradley3 easy.

[lightsout_finit]

ppl who actually OBSERVE BOXING and dont have the sentimental attachment to fighters SEE what is about to occur IF pacquiao has the HEART to face Crawford. Crawford will STOP pacquiao the STYLES MAKE FIGHTS is SO GLARING here it is a slap in the face to any fan of the sport that notices the inevitable. only fans of fighters who hold them to some type of mystique think pacquiao will beat crawford like its a foregone conclusion. manny pacquiao has NEVER faced a fighter like Crawford NEVER. he will get KO'D by Crawford IF he makes it to my prediction round and thats round 10 Crawford STOPS pacquiao within 10 ROUNDS

Well If Crawford had heart he would have have fought
Provodnikov, Matthyse or Algieri for that belt (you know the high ranked wbo guys at the time)
Instead he fought Dulorme! What a p*ssy! lol!
Then he took on the canadian legend Jean....

Remind me what has Crawford beaten other than Ricky Burns?

Kid couldn't stop guys like Burns or Beltran but he's koing Pac?

only fans of fighters who hold them to some type of mystique think pacquiao will beat crawford like its a foregone conclusion.

Says the guy overrating a hypejob who is a duck, a cherrypicker and a paper champ at light welter...

[Bronx2245]

You sound real uneducated, man. Since when has any fighter's jab or versatile style, defeated Manny? Manny took away Floyd's jab and matched his unreal reflexes. What do you think Crawford is going to do to Manny that he hasn't seen before? He better hope that Manny is OLD or else he is getting his ass beat.

Manny took away Floyd's jab, and matched his reflexes? Really??? If Manny fights Crawford the way he fought Floyd, Crawford by UD in 12.

[Jsmooth9876]

That might be better for Manny's chances of winning, but neither fight is sellable on PPV. Ultimately this is all about making money. Nobody wants to pay for a Rios rematch or another Bradley fight. Been there, done that.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking PPV. Regular HBO is fine... For Crawford obviously. Pac should be fighting Khan or a Mayweather rematch.

[BlackSoul]

Well If Crawford had heart he would have have fought
Provodnikov, Matthyse or Algieri for that belt (you know the high ranked wbo guys at the time)
Instead he fought Dulorme! What a p*ssy! lol!
Then he took on the canadian legend Jean....

Remind me what has Crawford beaten other than Ricky Burns?

Kid couldn't stop guys like Burns or Beltran but he's koing Pac?





Says the guy overrating a hypejob who is a duck, a cherrypicker and a paper champ at light welter...

pacquiaio hasnt had a KO in like damn near 7 YEARS he couldnt stop rios, an injured bradley, a algieri etc
pacquiaos most notable wins were CATCHWEIGHT fights i personally believe he lost ALL 4 marquez fights, and i think pacquiao was a ped abuser as well and ever since the allegations surfaced he hasnt had a KO since.
pacquiao hasnt fought a "puncher" in YEARS and there are PLENTY at 147 and 140 he dragged up algieri from 140 who has like 7 ko's and fought him
ruslan LOST to matthyssee
matthyssee had a fight scheduled AT THE TIME and were on a collision course but he QUIT against postol
algieri in MY opinion LOST to provodnikov and they're NOT elite 140lbers i think Amir Imam stops ALL 3

[JrX]

Manny took away Floyd's jab, and matched his reflexes? Really??? If Manny fights Crawford the way he fought Floyd, Crawford by UD in 12.

He countered Fraud plenty of times even slipped his counters while coming in regularly. Open your eyes fight was close anyway don't forget Manny is a southpaw I don't think Crawford turning southpaw will benefit him.

[HURTFEELINGS]

Manny is an OLD, INJURED, boxer, with no ko's in 6-7 years...He's a .500 fighter in his last 6 fights, he's looking at retirement and thinking about it, his large bills have been paid off, he doesnt have the hunger or "killer instinct" and crawford saw what a jab does to manny. HE'S FINISHED and thank god for that, but if you guys wanna see your savior hung up on a cross, go ahead. Most boxers get their asses beat on the way out the door, but it ought to be fun to watch and hear all of you pac-roids crying again matter of fact, he should fight Thurman or Broner. They will come straight at him and tear his head off.

[BlackSoul]

He countered Fraud plenty of times even slipped his counters while coming in regularly. Open your eyes fight was close anyway don't forget Manny is a southpaw I don't think Crawford turning southpaw will benefit him.

i rewatched the fight.
in the first time i watched the fight i had pacquiao winning 2 rounds
the next time i rewatched the fight i had pacquiao winning 3 rounds
this fight was a let down on BOTH sides but pacquiao wasnt injured by no means he just couldnt control distance OR cut off the ring he doesnt have a reach advantage or a speed advantage cant FORCE someone to fight him and he just got outboxed no other way around it
crawford is like a hitman hearns, aaron pryor and a dash of pernell whitaker all rolled up into one that can SWITCH HIT so his lead right in the southpaw position will trouble pacq
crawford by domination

[BlackSoul]

Manny is an OLD, INJURED, boxer, with no ko's in 6-7 years...He's a .500 fighter in his last 6 fights, he's looking at retirement and thinking about it, his large bills have been paid off, he doesnt have the hunger or "killer instinct" and crawford saw what a jab does to manny. HE'S FINISHED and thank god for that, but if you guys wanna see your savior hung up on a cross, go ahead. Most boxers get their asses beat on the way out the door, but it ought to be fun to watch and hear all of you pac-roids crying again matter of fact, he should fight Thurman or Broner. They will come straight at him and tear his head off.

i've been saying the same thang BUT we have to remember thurman is a PBC/Haymon fighter they're being sued by bob arum so that fight wont happen
but most of the top welterweights and junior welters take out pacquiao

[imperial1]

Rios: Nobody will pay. Too dominant a loss.
Khan? Barely got past Algieri, exposed. Doesn't deserve it.
Crawford? I think it'd be Pacquiao/Cotto all over again. Crawford stopped late.

Bradley? I don't agree. It's the real money fight here.

The first fight was a close split, not a wide, not a UD. What hurt Manny was the fact he basically BS'd through at least 4 rounds including the final ones. The A-Side (Manny) always gets the homefield advantage, which means two judges found this lazy behavior inexcusable. This fresh off of basically robbing Marquez in the third fight, they probably were looking for him to show up that fight, and he didn't.

The second fight, Bradley was up at first and then started messing up. UD, but not a wide UD except on scummy scorecards. I gave Pacquiao that fight 8 rounds to 4, but 3 of those 8 were swing rounds where Bradley was connecting. Not impressive, people made it out to be more of a dominant win than it was simply because they were mad at Bradley for winning the first fight. He couldn't even put Bradley down the second time with a HURT LEG.

Lest we also not forget, Pacquiao/Bradley 2 did 4x the PPV buys that GGG/Lemieux did. Not a stretch to think it could hit 1 million buys.

Bradley is since coming off a win and a questionable draw where he should have won. He's got momentum and fans behind him again. Most important, he's got the belt back that Manny took from him, which Floyd took from Manny. The marketing flyers write themselves.

Pacquiao couldn't stop Rios, couldn't stop Algieri (and his trainer was to blame for that poor performance, as we saw a MUCH better fighter against Khan), and UD lost to Floyd Mayweather after swearing up and down he was going to beat him.


No...I don't buy the hype. Let's see a rubber match. If Tim Bradley retires Manny Pacquiao, it will SHOCK the boxing world, because it means Manny truly is washed up, and Manny will go out a laughing stock compared to his once-rivals. I'd pay to see Pacquiao/Bradley3 easy.

Bradley ! Oh hell no Bradley was already beaten twice by Manny No need for a rubber match ..

I like the idea of Crawford .