Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: If You're Not Real 160, Don't Fight For Title

[ИATAS]

Yeah i'm sure Golovkin and his team said they were only going to fight at 168 for money fights like Chavez Jr and Froch who had the IBF title. There is no difference here, Canelo wanting to fight Cotto for money and a title, but not intending to stay there. It was defended by GGG fans when he wanted to just fight Froch for the IBF title because of the sole purpose that it was a money fight. No difference.

So Canelo plans on leaving? He's going to immediately drop the title and fight at 154 pounds? Yeah right. And that's the problem. He's going to continue to fight at a made up weight class of 155 pounds while being lineal champion (if he beats Cotto of course).

The other difference is Golovkin is getting sh it by ******ed boxing fans because he wants to fight for titles in his own division, as if that's some kind of crime. God forbid boxing has any rules in place where champions have to defend titles against mandatories.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

About ****ing time makes shut up all day

Loeffler - "Anything over 200k buys is a success"

97k.............

150,000 dumb azz

Lol. Youll acting like Golovkin is white. There has not been a white champion since Kelly Pavlik's drunk ass. Golovkin aint white, canelo aint white, Kovalev is not white. Theyre just the closest race that youll can relate to in boxing.

Are you really that ******?

Ward is looking to get some rounds under his belt, not go for the KO right away.

Ward's trying to drag C fighters up to LHW to make himself look good.

If he makes 154, and is healthy for 12 rounds, wont that prove you wrong ?

Cotto is gonna find out real soon anyway, he will confirm/deny that.

Fight-night weight is a dreadful way to assess this, everyone is different.....

..... but what does Canelo's weight have to do with the fact that Golovkin said he could beat Canelo at 155?

Golovkin said he could do it.

Golovkin obviously needs that fight.

I dont see the problem.

Canelo stated that he is not a MW, and has no interest in 160.

Hopkins dared to be great, he gave Hoya a reasonable catchweight.

I dont see the problem here, Golovkin could just do it, unless..... ?

You just ramble, half the time twisting so bad you can't even rember what you said.

Get real son !

They have been running that " anyone from 154-168 " schtick for years.

And less than a week ago, Team Golovkin stated that Gennady can make 154.

Golovkin said he could do it, but I guess that was just more talk from GGG ?

So what! Fight a 154 guy at 154 is one thing.

Canelo is a MW.

Cotto is MW lineal Champ.

Period!

Cotto weighs 153 you absolute tool, he is OBVIOUSLY a JMW.

A catchweight concerns WEIGHT, not titles.

Cotto weighs 153.

I guess your creepy man-love for Golovkin caused you to forget the purpose behind a catchweight.

And I thought his last three fights were billed as MW championship fights.

Damn those promos, Cotto is s liar.

Golovkin was willing to fight Froch for his title at 168.....

..... but he would have defended it against Ward at 164.

The Froch fight wouldn't of been for title, would have been stripped.

And it's at 168.

The 164 was for no title. You someone make the assumption that Froch/GGG would have happened, the GGG/Ward.

You know damn well your twisting here.

No one ever said GGG plan was to gain title from Froch then force Ward down.

But since you're fine with Cotto doing that, why bring it up.

You live in these hypotheticals like they're real.

Why don't you find another article that you can misunderstand then quote it as fact.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

So Canelo plans on leaving? He's going to immediately drop the title and fight at 154 pounds? Yeah right. And that's the problem. He's going to continue to fight at a made up weight class of 155 pounds while being lineal champion (if he beats Cotto of course).

The other difference is Golovkin is getting sh it by ******ed boxing fans because he wants to fight for titles in his own division, as if that's some kind of crime. God forbid boxing has any rules in place where champions have to defend titles against mandatories.

He knows the difference, that dudes a tool. I blocked him a long time ago.

Also, Ring magazine is claiming that if Canelo vacates the WBC strap, they'll take the lineal.

However, you can't trust them because the are owned by Goldenboy.

Everyone would know that lineal means nothing. It'd be a Goldenboy crowing their fighter King of MW, while saying it isn't MW.

They think their fans are too dumb to notice the trick.

[aboutfkntime]

So Canelo plans on leaving? He's going to immediately drop the title and fight at 154 pounds? Yeah right. And that's the problem. He's going to continue to fight at a made up weight class of 155 pounds while being lineal champion (if he beats Cotto of course).

The other difference is Golovkin is getting sh it by ******ed boxing fans because he wants to fight for titles in his own division, as if that's some kind of crime. God forbid boxing has any rules in place where champions have to defend titles against mandatories.

The lineal middleweight " champ " has NEVER been the best guy at 160 since the day Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins in their 1st fight..... other than for a small period of time with Martinez.

I will never understand why that is somehow important to you.....
..... but, why is it important at all ?

Is the current lineal middleweight champ the best fighter at 160 ?

Surely having a great fight is more important than a totally worthless award?

[aboutfkntime]

The Froch fight wouldn't of been for title, would have been stripped.

And it's at 168.

The 164 was for no title. You someone make the assumption that Froch/GGG would have happened, the GGG/Ward.

HOW THE FCUK DOES A TITLE DETERMINE THE WEIGHT, YOU CLOWN?



The fact that a title may/may not be on the line, will have no bearing on the weight/physical proportions of either fighter.....

Do I need to explain to you the purpose of a catchweight, again ?

[titan m]

If he makes 154, and is healthy for 12 rounds, wont that prove you wrong ?

Cotto is gonna find out real soon anyway, he will confirm/deny that.

Fight-night weight is a dreadful way to assess this, everyone is different.....

..... but what does Canelo's weight have to do with the fact that Golovkin said he could beat Canelo at 155?

Golovkin said he could do it.

Golovkin obviously needs that fight.

I dont see the problem.

Canelo stated that he is not a MW, and has no interest in 160.

Hopkins dared to be great, he gave Hoya a reasonable catchweight.

I dont see the problem here, Golovkin could just do it, unless..... ?

No it wouldn't prove me wrong, it would make me wonder why the **** he wanted his last 3 fights above the jr middleweight limit if he still feels hes a jr middleweight. Anyway you see it your way and I see it mine , no point in going back and forth anymore.

[The plunger man]

Yeah i'm sure Golovkin and his team said they were only going to fight at 168 for money fights like Chavez Jr and Froch who had the IBF title. There is no difference here, Canelo wanting to fight Cotto for money and a title, but not intending to stay there. It was defended by GGG fans when he wanted to just fight Froch for the IBF title because of the sole purpose that it was a money fight. No difference.

You complete clunge....glovkins team are not asking canelo or cotto to stay at middleweight ...there saying your holding a belt at 160 and your not fighting 160 fighters....and there saying you have had your fun at 155 but the games up.....you either defend that belt against me at 160 which is the division top end or get the f@ck back down to the little boys division and let the middleweights fight at that correct weight.....Golovkins team knows he can't force a canelo or cotto fight at 160 but they will certainly get the world title which is what it's all about....so when canelo or cotto are forced back down jnr what exciting competition fights will they have in the future.....news for you sunny there ain't that many future PPV bouts down the jnr middles ...unless you say a clottey,Lara or charlo......lets see how great the PPV is for canelo or cotto in those fights lol...golovkin is the best in the middleweights and justice is being served....period

[Joe Beamish]

Critics just need to recognize that Golovkin is old school. Maybe it's because he grew up in a former soviet block country, in a mining town. Whatever. He's tough. He wants to consolidate the title. He still thinks of belts as meaningful things.

However, the rest of you are more enlightened. But he won't change.

If he succeeds, won't it make the middleweight title truly meaningful -- or at least much more interesting?

[ИATAS]

The lineal middleweight " champ " has NEVER been the best guy at 160 since the day Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins in their 1st fight..... other than for a small period of time with Martinez.

What are talking about? Your posts are so bizarre.

I will never understand why that is somehow important to you.....
..... but, why is it important at all ?

Is the current lineal middleweight champ the best fighter at 160 ?

Surely having a great fight is more important than a totally worthless award?

Brilliant man, absolutely brilliant logic. I'm sure the superbowl trophy is worthless to NFL teams. Why even have the superbowl when they can make better games? Why does any sport have trophies or rings or cups or whatever the hell prize they are playing for? They are all clearly worthless.

Let's just get rid of weight classes entirely. Let's throw away worthless titles. No more title eliminations, no more mandatories. Let's only make good fights. Let's have absolutely no order, let's throw away whatever order that remains. Canelo beats Cotto, great, he can fight only who he wants when he wants at what weight he wants. Mandatories? The hell with them! Tournaments? Pointless, throw them away too.

[aboutfkntime]

No it wouldn't prove me wrong, it would make me wonder why the **** he wanted his last 3 fights above the jr middleweight limit if he still feels hes a jr middleweight. Anyway you see it your way and I see it mine , no point in going back and forth anymore.

Well, I can answer that, because I am positive that you are wrong.

Firstly, Canelo can make 154, he made 152 for Mayweather.

/story

Secondly, Reynoso stated why Canelo fights at 150/155.

He also confirmed that Canelo can make 154.

They do it to preserve his career, Canelo will only make 154 for big fights.

It is extremely unprofessional imho.

Canelo should have more respect for the sport and for his opponents.

But that doesn't make him a middleweight.