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  • #71
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    floyd will be remembered like jack johnson.

    ppl will brag about how great he was defensively but no one watched his old fights.

    pac will be the guy from this era ppl remember.

    so many rewatchable fights.

    plus all his ****** stories about selling stuff on the street, dad ate dog, no food, taking fights last minute,etc. will all get exagerrated.

    better story, better fights. pac will be better remembered.
    This.

    How can anyone re-watch Mayweather's fights over and over without falling to sleep? Duran's fights were action-packed. I think we live in a time where people respect the "0" more than substance. Duran, Leonard, Hearns all more fun to watch in fights that are memorable and will stand the test of time. Mayweather's fights were almost all snooze fests.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by norway View Post
      Ha ha watch sugar ray and roberto,s fights. Floyd would have boxed circles around them both. Sorry guys but times change for the better and the same goes for athletes. Better training techniques,better nutrion etc etc. Memories last a lifetime and I understand is easy to be a fanboy of just that.
      If everything gets better, how are there so few boxing fans today compared with the Duran era of the 70s and 80s? Boxing was the number one sport in this country at one time. Go into a bar now and see how much boxing you see on the TVs and listen to how many boxing conversations you hear. Football, basketball, baseball. They all get more attention. Even UFC to a point. The so-called "fight of the Century" shows you how far it has slipped. Things change over time- some for the better, some for the worse. Having a guy make the biggest purse ever for that farce is not an improvement. Compare any of Mayweather's fights to Duran-Leonard I or Leonard-Hearns I or Hearns-Hagler. The comparison is laughable.

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      • #73
        Ofcourse you can Duran, even a roided up to the gills Floyd can't even dance with a one armed Pac what more a 2 handed Duran or a 2 handed pac. That's elementary.

        No amount of roiding and peds can save Floyd from Duran lol

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        • #74
          Depends. The Mayweather that beat Chico beats Duran p4p. That Mayweather could move and frustrate him but also have good offence and punch output. It could be similar to the 'no mas' fight. The fight evens up the older Mayweather gets and his willingness to throw punches become more sparse, the more chance Duran would have.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View Post
            If everything gets better, how are there so few boxing fans today compared with the Duran era of the 70s and 80s? Boxing was the number one sport in this country at one time. Go into a bar now and see how much boxing you see on the TVs and listen to how many boxing conversations you hear. Football, basketball, baseball. They all get more attention. Even UFC to a point. The so-called "fight of the Century" shows you how far it has slipped. Things change over time- some for the better, some for the worse. Having a guy make the biggest purse ever for that farce is not an improvement. Compare any of Mayweather's fights to Duran-Leonard I or Leonard-Hearns I or Hearns-Hagler. The comparison is laughable.
            Popularity doesn't equal talent though. You could argue that athletics was a more popular sport when Carl Lewis was running, yet Usain Bolt and actually many other runners these days would leave him for dust. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but your logic doesn't work.

            I'd say pretty much all sports have improved, especially athletes have improved over time. In some sports it's more obvious to see than others. In sports like Athletics there are timed and distance records that can be broken and are always being bettered and broken, and thats a clear indication. Boxing and other sports are more difficult to see the difference because they are head to head sports with no particular 'world record' to measure against, all you have is an opinion. Nostalgia plays a part too. You could be nostalgic about Carl Lewis' heyday but there's timed proof that he couldn't live with todays runners, but there's no such measuring stick in Boxing so thats why these debates keep on being brought up.

            I'm open minded about it. I see in other sports that world records to continue to be broken year after year because the athletes get better. It would be ignorant of me to think Boxing and some other sports aren't the same, it's just they don't have the same way of measuring.

            But then there's all sorts of complexities. I believe if you brought a fighter from the 70's to 2015 into a time machine, they might be destroyed. But bring them through and give them all the same training methods, diet plans, S&C coaches, sports science etc...then it might be a different story.

            They might be from the same sport but really due to difference in the way of the world and sport between now and then, it's essentially comparing apples and oranges.

            That's why i say it's impossible to measure yourself as TBE or whatever. Just be the best of your generation around your weight class, because that's all you can really be.
            Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-23-2015, 03:53 AM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
              He barely sc****d by maidana the first time and lost to Castillo. Get real phaggot.
              Your mother is a whore u fücking fäggot ass pansy.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                Depends. The Mayweather that beat Chico beats Duran p4p. That Mayweather could move and frustrate him but also have good offence and punch output. It could be similar to the 'no mas' fight. The fight evens up the older Mayweather gets and his willingness to throw punches become more sparse, the more chance Duran would have.
                120 fights duran said no mas once.

                70 plus fights before he said it.

                yet ppl wanna assume duran MIGHT do the same in every hypothetical fight......

                it wasn't even a brutal tough fight. duran wasn't even losing badly.

                who knows why duran did it but safe to assume it was a fluke.



                floyd cried out like a biatch claiming maidana bit him.

                i don't go around predicting floyd will scream like a woman every time.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
                  Your mother is a whore u fücking fäggot ass pansy.
                  go beat off to your gay scat **** of men in burkhas, you sexually frustrated arab.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    120 fights duran said no mas once.

                    70 plus fights before he said it.

                    yet ppl wanna assume duran MIGHT do the same in every hypothetical fight......

                    it wasn't even a brutal tough fight. duran wasn't even losing badly.

                    who knows why duran did it but safe to assume it was a fluke.



                    floyd cried out like a biatch claiming maidana bit him.

                    i don't go around predicting floyd will scream like a woman every time.
                    I didn't mean he would literally say "No Mas" - I mean that version of Floyd would have had enough in his arsenal to frustrate and outbox Duran in a similar way Leonard did. He was the full package then and did everything.

                    And anyway, it doesn't matter how many times he quit. Even if he quit once out of frustration, it's still part of his makeup as a fighter, so there's no saying he might never do it again. Fighters have been frustrated and outclassed more than Duran was in that fight, yet they fought on to finish because it's what they are. Duran chose not to, and if you have it within you to do that once, you always will have it in you to do it when the time comes to stick or twist. "No Mas" was an option he give himself and he took it, other fighters don't even question it.

                    That's not to say he wasn't great, he was. But he still had that within him to quit.
                    Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-23-2015, 04:22 AM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                      120 fights duran said no mas once.

                      70 plus fights before he said it.

                      yet ppl wanna assume duran MIGHT do the same in every hypothetical fight......

                      it wasn't even a brutal tough fight. duran wasn't even losing badly.

                      who knows why duran did it but safe to assume it was a fluke.

                      floyd cried out like a biatch claiming maidana bit him.

                      i don't go around predicting floyd will scream like a woman every time.
                      Yep you cant define Duran like that.

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