Comments Thread For: Duran: Mayweather Not TBE, I Would Have Beaten Him

[therealpugilist]

This would be an incredible fight. Imagine a 4 man tournament between Whitaker, Duran, Floyd and Chavez Sr.

Damn wheres that damn delorean when you need one...this would've been freaking epic

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Popularity doesn't equal talent though. You could argue that athletics was a more popular sport when Carl Lewis was running, yet Usain Bolt and actually many other runners these days would leave him for dust. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but your logic doesn't work.

I'd say pretty much all sports have improved, especially athletes have improved over time. In some sports it's more obvious to see than others. In sports like Athletics there are timed and distance records that can be broken and are always being bettered and broken, and thats a clear indication. Boxing and other sports are more difficult to see the difference because they are head to head sports with no particular 'world record' to measure against, all you have is an opinion. Nostalgia plays a part too. You could be nostalgic about Carl Lewis' heyday but there's timed proof that he couldn't live with todays runners, but there's no such measuring stick in Boxing so thats why these debates keep on being brought up.

I'm open minded about it. I see in other sports that world records to continue to be broken year after year because the athletes get better. It would be ignorant of me to think Boxing and some other sports aren't the same, it's just they don't have the same way of measuring.

But then there's all sorts of complexities. I believe if you brought a fighter from the 70's to 2015 into a time machine, they might be destroyed. But bring them through and give them all the same training methods, diet plans, S&C coaches, sports science etc...then it might be a different story.

They might be from the same sport but really due to difference in the way of the world and sport between now and then, it's essentially comparing apples and oranges.

That's why i say it's impossible to measure yourself as TBE or whatever. Just be the best of your generation around your weight class, because that's all you can really be.

Popularity equaling talent wasn't the point. When a fighter doesn't entertain the fans and still gets respected by the boxing community, the sport will suffer as it has. This era held up a guy who never put on a great fight.

Can't agree with this "all athletes are better today" philosophy. I think we all want them to be better, but it's not the case. I can't speak on running, but the modern boxers don't get the right training in my opinion, especially when it comes to inside fighting. Of course, if I stick up for the old fighters, I am being "nostalgic." I'm more of a nature vs. nurture believer. Fighters these days aren't as solid as the old guys. You can take all the supplements and training in the world, but a hungry dog fights harder than a fat one, pure and simple.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Early floyd was too light and to small for hearns....we are not talking about correlas here ....it's the hitman with a 78 inch reach and lightning speed and power.....hearns was to big for floyd all through his career

Hearns was lanky, that's all. So was Castillo. De La Hoya looked like a monster towering over Manny AND Floyd.

I would argue Chris Algieri was "too big" for both Manny and Ruslan. Didn't help him none.

Paul Williams looked like a light heavyweight next to Sergio Martinez. Didn't help him none.

All I'm saying is, reach advantage means nothing if you're not precise. That was Hearns' issue, precision. He was accurate against Duran and Hagler because they stood in front of him. Against a moving target? Hearns would look like a fool.

LATER Hearns, where he showcased pure boxing excellence and defense, would be a threat to Floyd for sure.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

He got outboxed and dropped by esteban de jesus in his prime....Duran is a legend but he was not perfect and lets be honest he was not fighting a lot of great fighters at 135



That Buchanan stoppage was BS and a clear foul

Outside of Buchanan and De Jesus his comp there wasn't all that even though he ran through a lot of them

He dominated Buchanan before the foul and the foul was retaliation for a Buchanan foul the referee didn't see. OH he was dropped? My God, throw him to the wolves! Haha. He also got up from a first round knockdown and knocked his opponent out in the 12th- something Mayweather never proved he could do, except maybe Zab Judah after that knockdown. Oh wait. He didn't stop Judah either.

[The plunger man]

Hearns was lanky, that's all. So was Castillo. De La Hoya looked like a monster towering over Manny AND Floyd.

I would argue Chris Algieri was "too big" for both Manny and Ruslan. Didn't help him none.

Paul Williams looked like a light heavyweight next to Sergio Martinez. Didn't help him none.

All I'm saying is, reach advantage means nothing if you're not precise. That was Hearns' issue, precision. He was accurate against Duran and Hagler because they stood in front of him. Against a moving target? Hearns would look like a fool.

LATER Hearns, where he showcased pure boxing excellence and defense, would be a threat to Floyd for sure.

I do not think you know what the hell your talking about ....Benitez was elusive as a guy as mayweather and hearns dropped and beat him by decision....Duran was a master at defence and not easy to hit......Castillo was a lightweight and your comparing a Paul Williams to a Thomas hearns lol....really son I don't what you been smoking but I want some as well......I suggest what you do is sit down with a Coca Cola and popcorn and sit and watch hearns as a welterweight...... A lethal welterweight who was also rapier like with his jab.....hearns would have ripped mayweather apart......here you have 130lb natural fighter in mayweather vs 147 lb pound fighter with the reach of a heavyweight ....you think slow maidana caught mayweather....hearns would knocked have knocked him out the ring......you need to sit down for few hours and watch a few fights

[doom_specialist]

pac 37 yrs old.

65 fights.

20 year pro.

just a thought.

Mayweather was 38 years old, 48 fights, 19 year pro, including an extensive amateur career. Not like time was standing still for Mayweather and not for Pacquiao. Just a thought.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

if Floyd implemented what ray leonard to make him quit did I think he could beat him both are great fighters either way it goes

[j.razor]

LMFAO!! No mas, no mas...lol...I've seen his fights...he must be kidding.

[aboutfkntime]

Weighing up career achievements will only get you so far.

It gives a great indicator sure, but all of those guys are seriously elite.

It doesnt explain how each of those fights would play out because of how the particular styles would mesh. Sometimes it just comes down to little things that seem to work better on a certain fighter.

Mayweather would be right in those fights, pretty naive to write him off.

[aboutfkntime]

Leonard is still the best of them