Comments Thread For: Canelo Rejects Fighting Golovkin, Unless at 155-Pounds

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo rehydrated to 175.

If he thinks he isn't a MW, then why fight to be MW lineal champion?

Why does he get to make a mockery of weight classes? They've been there much longer than he has been alive on earth.

What is wrong with you ?

The post you replied to proved why rehydration-weight is irrelevant.

Learn the sport !

Canelo's walk-around weight is not even relevant, it has no bearing at all.

The total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight will be determined at the official weigh-in.

Canelo has never trained to fight at 160, when he does he will be much stronger..... and Canelo has never fought a middleweight opponent.

Its not about being an Aztec warrior or any of that shht.

Like " i'm a fun haver " pointed out, Canelo will pay for that if he aint careful, especially against a brutal guy like Golovkin.

If Canelo really is bigger than Golovkin, and that is somehow relevant like you are trying to make out..... then it will be easier for Golovkin to make 155 than it will be for Canelo..... right ?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

He will. It is what it is. Why do you think he's trying to fight smaller dudes who have never fought at 160?

You really think he's different? If he was, he would have walked away from trying to become an A-side by beating freaking small Cotto and chasing him around for years.

Won't be okay with it, but it is what it is.

There is a difference.

Cotto had had a MW belt and Lineal title for this year he has had GGG as a mandatory.

If GGG went and got a SMW belt, but demanded every fight at 163 for it.

I'd be first to say that's dumb.

But if this is gonna be the new normal, I don't want to hear a bunch of *****ing when GGG does it.

In reality, it's dumb.

And honesty, Cotto has no business fighting GGG. He just needs to vacate the belt.

Floyd has no business fight GGG, he is too old.

[TLC8]

canelo ducking already! just hope that cotto beats him now!

He won't beat Canelo, and why... Cotto will never fight GGG at ANY weight!

[SchoolTheseCats]

Naw, but if Cotto is willing to man up, when he shouldn't fight GGG, he is the one who needs a CW. Although he should of thought of that before becoming MW champ.



I've already ceded this point. Do you want an apology.

It's still not the same.

GGG doesn't outweigh Canelo in the ring.

Somebody is always smaller then someone after weighins, the two greats of this era in floyd and manny was outweighed normally by 15-20lbs on fight night and still overcame it because of they greatness if Golovikin as good as you guys claim a guy outweighing him doesn't matter stop with the weight excuse, fact of matter is canelo fights in his 155lb division hasn't attempted to make 160 limit yet and feels comfortable at 155 nobody changing that not lil g, WBC or forum warriors

[aboutfkntime]

Boxing has always been this kind of sport. I am not going to get suddenly outraged.

I am not saying that I like catchweights or like this, but rather that I acknowledged this kind of stuff as part of the sport. Whether you like it or not.

Canelo's fight night weight has nothing to do with anything, in that case GGG is ducking light heavyweights too. That's a poor argument. And 155, however you slice it, is not 160.

Take Cotto for example. Cotto may be the champ, but he is no way shape or form a 160 fighter. He is just not. Do I think that ethically he should drop the belt then? Yes, but since when is ethics a part of boxing? He is doing what he can by fighting lower and lower to benefit him. So, on the technicality that he is a MW he is supposed to get in the ring with GGG with no advantages at all? Come dude, he doesn't even belong at 160 why is he going to serve himself on a platter against a monster like GGG?

Let me state it again: I am not "defending it." But I often see that boxing fans get all righteous only when their favorite fighter is on the short end of the stick. Remember Floyd and his fans making fun of Pac's cw's? Well, when it was Floyd, they forgot. GGG will have to take it. When he gets power, he will do it too. I hope you complain then too.

Don't hold GGG to a different regard. He's no different in that he is trying to secure the best fights at the best circumstances possible. If he could safely make 154, he would. If he thought he could beat up Ward easy, he would move to 168 tomorrow. That's boxing whether we like it or not.

Not defending it, just seeing boxing for what it is. Not going to get all righteous about a sport that has none of it.

Wow..... what a top post !

That is exactly how I feel.

Thanks for taking the time to put your thoughts on paper man.

Top stuff !

Catchweights need to be removed, as do the numerous asshat sanctioning bodies..... but all of that will not happen before Golovkin faces the winner of the Cotto/Canelo fight..... you desperate lame fcuks !

You all know the rationale behind a catchweight, and you all know that Cotto weighs 153.

Develop some pride and some love for the sport you creepy ****s

[JaguaresMx]

There is a difference.

Cotto had had a MW belt and Lineal title for this year he has had GGG as a mandatory.

If GGG went and got a SMW belt, but demanded every fight at 163 for it.

I'd be first to say that's dumb.

But if this is gonna be the new normal, I don't want to hear a bunch of *****ing when GGG does it.

In reality, it's dumb.

And honesty, Cotto has no business fighting GGG. He just needs to vacate the belt.

Floyd has no business fight GGG, he is too old.

We don't disagree on principle. I just don't think that belt regulations are suddenly the important thing. They're marketing tools. They can and are bent at will.

In the last analysis (regardless of what anyone here thinks or how wrong it may seem) GGG will have to bend to Cotto or Canalos demands. I hope he does because the odds of them facing him are not great. But if they do, I hope he doesn't go full diva and just faces the reality that he is no position to force anything. He'd likely destroy them both, though I think Canelo puts up a good fight. Cotto is just too small.

And if he is the lineal champion at 160, then he fight at whatever the **** weight he wants. Many fights will open.

But the first order of business is to put the a side act aside and let Cotto/Canelo take him for a ride.

[aboutfkntime]

He posted the YouTube clip of lil g on sportsnation saying 50/50 weight out his mouth and still said he never said it lol

[Progrssive_Jedi]

What is wrong with you ?

The post you replied to proved why rehydration-weight is irrelevant.

Learn the sport !

Like " i'm a fun haver " pointed out, Canelo will pay for that if he aint careful, especially against a brutal guy like Golovkin.

If Canelo really is bigger than Golovkin, and that is somehow relevant like you are trying to make out..... then it will be easier for Golovkin to make 155 than it will be for Canelo..... right ?

If rehydration weight doesn't matter, then why not just stat at your weigh in weight?

Why does Canelo drain 20 pounds then?

What is the point?

I'm mean it doesn't matter right.

Two guys rehydrate to 175, so they're not the same weight?

You say they do not have same strength. Big course they don't. Some fighters are stronger than others.

Besides, the weight limited for certain sanctioning bodies make it so they can't come in higher.

Canelo is a MW, plain a simple. If he isn't making himself as strong as he can, that's on him. He is a MW. There is no 155 division.

[JaguaresMx]

Wow..... what a top post !

That is exactly how I feel.

Thanks for taking the time to put your thoughts on paper man.

Top stuff !

Catchweights need to be removed, as do the numerous asshat sanctioning bodies..... but all of that will not happen before Golovkin faces the winner of the Cotto/Canelo fight..... you desperate lame fcuks !

You all know the rationale behind a catchweight, and you all know that Cotto weighs 153.

Develop some pride and some love for the sport you creepy ****s

thanks man! I usually get solid points when I remove my fanboy glasses!

it does miracles

[aboutfkntime]

Boxing has always been this kind of sport. I am not going to get suddenly outraged.

I am not saying that I like catchweights or like this, but rather that I acknowledged this kind of stuff as part of the sport. Whether you like it or not.

Canelo's fight night weight has nothing to do with anything, in that case GGG is ducking light heavyweights too. That's a poor argument. And 155, however you slice it, is not 160.

Take Cotto for example. Cotto may be the champ, but he is no way shape or form a 160 fighter. He is just not. Do I think that ethically he should drop the belt then? Yes, but since when is ethics a part of boxing? He is doing what he can by fighting lower and lower to benefit him. So, on the technicality that he is a MW he is supposed to get in the ring with GGG with no advantages at all? Come dude, he doesn't even belong at 160 why is he going to serve himself on a platter against a monster like GGG?

Let me state it again: I am not "defending it." But I often see that boxing fans get all righteous only when their favorite fighter is on the short end of the stick. Remember Floyd and his fans making fun of Pac's cw's? Well, when it was Floyd, they forgot. GGG will have to take it. When he gets power, he will do it too. I hope you complain then too.

Don't hold GGG to a different regard. He's no different in that he is trying to secure the best fights at the best circumstances possible. If he could safely make 154, he would. If he thought he could beat up Ward easy, he would move to 168 tomorrow. That's boxing whether we like it or not.

Not defending it, just seeing boxing for what it is. Not going to get all righteous about a sport that has none of it.

I am quoting this post again, in the vain hope that it will not be missed.

Not just the best post in this thread, the best post I have read for awhile.