beat crawford,thryman,garcia,porter,maidena,khan
Wha does manny pacquiao have to do to be considered p4p #1
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...and a congressman
...and a singer
...and a basketball playerComment
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Already have him #1.
Would only help his cause if he beats Brook next year. I don't understand WHY the fight isn't being made.Comment
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I don't really have a problem with people rating him #1. Personally I rate Wlad #1 but he has been #2 on my list since ktfo6 anyway. Does beating Bradley (for a second time in the eyes of most) and losing to Floyd warrant the #1 spot? Meh, sure why not at this point. At least Manny has paid his dues more than a GGG or Chocolatito.Comment
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Agree 110%I don't really have a problem with people rating him #1. Personally I rate Wlad #1 but he has been #2 on my list since ktfo6 anyway. Does beating Bradley (for a second time in the eyes of most) and losing to Floyd warrant the #1 spot? Meh, sure why not at this point. At least Manny has paid his dues more than a GGG or Chocolatito.Comment
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I have no issues with rating Pacquiao #1. Nor do I with Klitschko, or even Roman Gonzales. At this point, I think the top 3 are well established. Now it's just simply a matter of determining which one deserves it the most recently.
I honestly think Pacquiao deserves it the most, despite his decline, though.Comment
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I think p4p should be determined by what you have done in recent times, not past achievements or skill level. Like Ward, highly skilled but has fought no high level competition in about 3 years, and only 2 fights. For all we know, Ward might have missed his prime and be on the decline, there's no recent proof one way or the other.
Anyway, as far as Pacquiao goes, well part of me thinks he will never reach the top of that list again as he's getting older and not the fighter he once was. In decline basically but then you have to remember it's Pacquiao, not an ordinary fighter. I believe even if he has 85% left of what he was, he can beat any current fighter around his weightclass, apart from Floyd...and he's "retired" anyway. So who knows, 1 solid and 1 very good win and people might place him up there but really the hype has shifted.
HBO have Gonzalez and Golovkin now, Manny is the past. As long as those two keep winning, HBO and the boxing media will hold them in high regard and they will dominate the top of the p4p lists.....not that it really means anything anyway.Comment
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I disagreeI think p4p should be determined by what you have done in recent times, not past achievements or skill level. Like Ward, highly skilled but has fought no high level competition in about 3 years, and only 2 fights. For all we know, Ward might have missed his prime and be on the decline, there's no recent proof one way or the other.
Anyway, as far as Pacquiao goes, well part of me thinks he will never reach the top of that list again as he's getting older and not the fighter he once was. In decline basically but then you have to remember it's Pacquiao, not an ordinary fighter. I believe even if he has 85% left of what he was, he can beat any current fighter around his weightclass, apart from Floyd...and he's "retired" anyway. So who knows, 1 solid and 1 very good win and people might place him up there but really the hype has shifted.
HBO have Gonzalez and Golovkin now, Manny is the past. As long as those two keep winning, HBO and the boxing media will hold them in high regard and they will dominate the top of the p4p lists.....not that it really means anything anyway.
I have Manny P number one again
he easily beat a top welterweight in BradleyComment
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